A General Question About Windows Updates? (All versions)

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Satchman
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A General Question About Windows Updates? (All versions)

Post by Satchman » Sat May 03, 2014 2:45 am

I have had several computers in my life. I have also communicated with people for the past twenty five years about different aspects of computing. My observations, shared by many, is that I leave Windows Update set to Automatic. As most know, that means that every patch Tuesday, sometimes Wednesday, you get the little update notice that updates are in the query. They update when you shut down your computer (Windows 7) or on the day you have set up in settings.

However, every once in a while on multiple computers, we have seen an update listed as an important part of Windows update, but it doesn't auto-install on "Patch Tuesday," which is generally the second Tuesday of every month.

My question is, why doesn't MS Windows Update grab all the important updates and install them each time? What's the significance of leaving one in the query, where sometimes t he only way users can get it is through manually updating?

In the few months I have had my computer, I had two updates like this. One was marked important and said it would improve the web developer functionality of Internet Explorer. The other one that I got in the query around April 19th, 2014 was to "Make the transition from Windows 7 to Windows 8 easier.

All other updates install without an issue, including the latest big IE 6-11 exploit fix. My question is if MS is marking selecting updates as important, why is it that once in a blue moon, automatic update does not get all of them?

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drsumit
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RE: A General Question About Windows Updates? (All versions)

Post by drsumit » Sat May 03, 2014 8:44 am

I guess automatic update must be buggy like all ms products.

If automatic updates is not working or you want to manually download updates
here's an article mentioning how to do it.

http://www.thewindowsclub.com/download-windows-update-manually

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RE: A General Question About Windows Updates? (All versions)

Post by Myxt » Sun May 04, 2014 4:29 am

I have always set mine to automatically download, notify me, and wait until I say to install. This way I don't have some long, occasionally weird, update stepping all over some important task I'm doing.

Depending on your specific machine *and* on the specific set of updates, it may be necessary to install some updates and then restart before installing others. This usually works automatically, but not necessarily.

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RE: A General Question About Windows Updates? (All versions)

Post by drsumit » Sun May 04, 2014 4:45 am

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I have always set mine to automatically download, notify me, and wait until I say to install. This way I don't have some long, occasionally weird, update stepping all over some important task I'm doing.

Depending on your specific machine *and* on the specific set of updates, it may be necessary to install some updates and then restart before installing others. This usually works automatically, but not necessarily.
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Yes I agree but I have this option enabled - ask before downloading

Because if I am already downloading some software or games I don't want the update download to slow it down.
Usually I let automatic updates to download at night when I am busy sleeping.

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RE: A General Question About Windows Updates? (All versions)

Post by Digital Capman » Mon May 05, 2014 5:25 pm

JMO but I always thought that some of the updates don't go on automatically because either you don't have that service on (like Remote Assistance) which the update would be for, or it doesn't apply to the way your windows is setup.

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RE: A General Question About Windows Updates? (All versions)

Post by hotdoge3 » Tue May 27, 2014 9:19 am

Updates: frequently asked questions

Here are answers to some common questions about updates. To learn how to install updates, see Install Windows updates in Windows 7. For information about updates and your privacy, read the Windows Update privacy statement online.

Show contentHide content What are updates?
Updates are additions to software that can help prevent or fix problems, improve how your computer works, or enhance your computing experience.

Show contentHide content What are software notifications?
Software notifications will periodically let you know about new programs that can enhance your experiences with your computer and the Internet. You can choose to receive detailed notification messages letting you know when a new program is available for download and installation. When you get a notification, you can review what's being offered, and get more details. You can install the programs if you like what you see. The notification will appear for a limited time, and you can close it if you're not interested. To turn software notifications on or off, follow these steps:

Click to open Windows Update.

In the left pane, click Change settings.

Do one of the following:

To turn on new Microsoft software notifications, select the Show me detailed notifications when new Microsoft software is available check box.

To turn off new Microsoft software notifications, clear the Show me detailed notifications when new Microsoft software is available check box.

Click OK.

Show contentHide content Where can I find updates?
For Windows updates, including those for programs that are included with Windows, go to Windows Update in Control Panel:

Click to open Windows Update.

In the left pane, click Check for updates.

We recommend that you turn on automatic updating so Windows can install new updates as they become available. For more information, see Turn automatic updating on or off.

To find updates for the Microsoft Office System and other Microsoft software, go to the Microsoft Update website. Once you turn on Microsoft Update, this link will open Windows Update, where you can check for any new Microsoft updates. For updates for other programs and devices that you use, check the website of the publisher or manufacturer.

Show contentHide content How do I let all users on my computer install updates?
By default, Windows only allows users with administrator user accounts to install updates. You can also allow users with standard user accounts to install updates. This can be convenient if you're using a family computer where most of the users have standard accounts for better Internet safety or parental control. You can choose to allow standard, non-administrator users to install updates manually with this option.

To allow all users to install updates, follow these steps:

Click to open Windows Update.

In the left pane, click Change settings.

Do one of the following:

To allow standard users to install updates, select the Allow all users to install updates on this computer check box.

To prevent standard users from installing updates, clear the Allow all users to install updates on this computer check box.

If you use automatic updating for Important or Recommended updates, those updates are installed regardless of whether the current user is an administrator or not.

Show contentHide content What do the different types of updates mean?
Updates are classified as Important, Recommended, Optional, and Featured. Here's what they mean:

Important updates offer significant benefits, such as improved security, privacy, and reliability. They should be installed as they become available, and can be installed automatically with Windows Update.

Recommended updates address non-critical problems or help enhance your computing experience. While these updates do not address fundamental issues with your computer or Windows software, they can offer meaningful improvements. These can be installed automatically.

Optional updates can include updates, drivers, or new software from Microsoft to enhance your computing experience. You can only install these manually.

Depending on the type of update, Windows Update can deliver the following:

Security updates. A broadly released fix for a product-specific security-related vulnerability. Security vulnerabilities are rated based on their severity, which is indicated in the Microsoft security bulletin as critical, important, moderate, or low.

Critical updates. A broadly released fix for a specific problem addressing a critical, non-security related bug.

Service Packs. A tested, cumulative set of hotfixes, security updates, critical updates, and updates, as well as additional fixes for problems found internally since the release of the product. Service Packs might also contain a limited number of customer-requested design changes or features.

Show contentHide content Do I need to download and install updates?

To get all You need WGA. and don't for get optional updates most you don't need.

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RE: A General Question About Windows Updates? (All versions)

Post by Satchman » Wed May 28, 2014 12:39 pm

What I have heard is with regard to Windows 8,

Windows Defender, the built in Antivirus will ONLY check for updates if Microsoft Update/Windows Update is set to Automatic. This is because it receives definitions from Windows Update in conjunction with Microsoft's Malware Security Center. Windows Defender on Windows 8, is what Microsoft Security Essentials is on Windows 7 and Vista, a full anti-virus. Windows XP will still get MSE updates until July 15th, 2015, but the OS is no longer considered secure, or supported.

Windows Defender on Windows XP, Windows Vista, and Windows 7 is a malware blocker only! Users for full anti-virus protection must get ONE (and only one) Anti-Virus for their computer, more will conflict.

If you have any competing AV software, you MUST uninstall that AV first, before installing any new Anti-Virus. It is recommended that users check to make sure that when they get a full anti-virus on their system, that Windows Defender is turned off. This applies to Windows Vista and 7. Here's how to do that:

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/securitytipstalk/archive/2013/11/14/windows-defender-and-microsoft-security-essentials-which-one-do-i-need.aspx

In Windows XP, Windows Defender can be removed through Add/Remove Programs.

Note that if you upgrade from Windows Defender to Microsoft Security Essentials, Windows Defender is automatically disabled. MSE is a full anti-virus. This applies to Windows versions prior to version 8.

In Windows 8, Windows Defender replaces Microsoft Security Essentials. It is very good.

Here's help from Microsoft on the differences between Windows Defender and MSE:

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/securitytipstalk/archive/2013/11/14/windows-defender-and-microsoft-security-essentials-which-one-do-i-need.aspx

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RE: A General Question About Windows Updates? (All versions)

Post by hotdoge3 » Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:10 am

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/install-windows-updates (Win-7)

To install drivers and other optional updates

To install optional updates, you need to review and then select them from the list of updates that Windows finds for your computer. Optional updates are not installed automatically.

https://support.microsoft.com/kb/323166

How to download updates that include drivers and hotfixes from the Windows Update Catalog.

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_other-windows_update/cant-update-windows-7-win7-64bit/58c0f659-6959-443d-a92b-56f98a48c206

1. Run services.msc
2. Stop service Windows-Update
3. Delete folder content of C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\
4. Start service Windows-Update again
5. Run Windows Update
PS This works good on XP & windows 7

https://support.microsoft.com/gp/windows-update-issues/en-us
XP to windows 8.

http://www.pchell.com/support/windows_updates_download_but_wont_install.shtml
Download the Latest Version of Windows Update Agent

https://support.microsoft.com/kb/949358
"Failure configuring Windows updates. Reverting changes. Do not turn off your computer" error when you try to install Windows updates.
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all downloaders are located in the Microsoft Download Center. You can complete download process through the simple steps below.

The steps for Windows XP
The steps for Windows Vista
The steps for Windows 7 + 8

https://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/windowsupdate/v6/default.aspx

[Error number: 0x8DDD0001] may be only XP

Click Sites and under Add this website to the zone, copy and paste these website addresses

http://update.microsoft.com
https://update.microsoft.com
http://*.update.microsoft.com
https://*.update.microsoft.com
http://download.windowsupdate.com

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