Mass Rating Tool Madness?

NotBuyingIt
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RE: Mass Rating Tool Madness?

Post by NotBuyingIt » Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:12 pm

<quote user="jtaylor83">
I am tired of this 30 character minimum requirement to comment on a website.
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I haven't objections to the user's typical twelve and thirteen characters of comment; e.g.,
http://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/coachoutletonlinewusa.com/comment-60796981



imdb
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RE: Mass Rating Tool Madness?

Post by imdb » Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:26 am

Bah this is crazy, somehow our name server that we use got Mass Rated, even though it's not a Website nor there is a website. Anyone on the name server ends up getting rated as site rating of 1! I am not sure how that works but obviously that tool is not very useful and down right inaccurate.


NotBuyingIt
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RE: Mass Rating Tool Madness?

Post by NotBuyingIt » Tue Mar 26, 2013 5:52 am

<quote user="imdb">
Bah this is crazy, somehow our name server that we use got Mass Rated, even though it's not a Website nor there is a website. Anyone on the name server ends up getting rated as site rating of 1! I am not sure how that works but obviously that tool is not very useful and down right inaccurate.
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@[url=http://www.mywot.com/en/user/4881164 t=_self]imdb[/url], welcome to the users' community forums. The reputation for newance.com ([url=http://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/newance.com/ t=_self]scorecard[/url]) would be the same whether or not someone used the Mass Rating Tool (MRT) to submit a rating. You should already understand from a careful reading of this thread that the MRT has nothing whatsoever to do with the accuracy of a rating; the MRT is simply a different web interface for submitting the same data that users can submit on WOT scorecards. The MRT does assure that you can contact its user to discuss his submission, though. Most people who use the MRT want to be as accurate as possible, so they are entirely willing to correct a mistake.

My own approach is to adversely rate the domains of nameservers that promote malicious or unethical activities. A nameserver may be under the control of a criminal botnet, for example. Evidently, adverse ratings sometimes get the attention of nameservers' owners. In my experience, domain owners are not always as easy to contact as MRT users are.

alecsf
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RE: Mass Rating Tool Madness?

Post by alecsf » Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:39 am

<quote user="imdb">
Bah this is crazy, somehow our name server that we use got Mass Rated, even though it's not a Website nor there is a website. Anyone on the name server ends up getting rated as site rating of 1! I am not sure how that works but obviously that tool is not very useful and down right inaccurate.
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WOT is basically broken by design. I'd never heard of it until some PEBCAK on a forum shrieked "your web site has a low trust rating!"

WTF? So eventually I discovered she was using WOT. My website had been rated by ONE user who left the comment: 'URL was found on a list of malware' or something similar. The user was basically anonymous (movie derived nickname). the WOT process left no path whatsoever to facilitate a solution, nor did it trigger any notification. Then I found out: in order to do anything about the rating I'm supposed to put WOT code in my site pages! I mean... sorry. WHAT? Who do you think you are? Google?

Our site is a shopfront for a corporate training company with 80-90% repeat business (vendor satisfaction right there), no 'adult content', no login, minimal opportunity to input data... We don't need a red flag from a malicious or incompetent user scaring technically inept visitors into into thinking (based on the dumb WOT scorecard) that we are....

Not trustworthy?
Unreliable?
Abuse privacy?
Are not safe for children?

If I get directed to a phishing site, or a site which might have malicious content, my browsers - yes, all three - will tell me. And they've got a hit rate which pretty much sh*ts all over WOT.

This is a sad and misguided attempt to become the internet police by a group of people who evidently don't have the competence. WOT is unnecessary, inaccurate and ultimately dangerous. (A failed safety measure is worse than none at all, as it lowers vigilance.)

It will, one hopes, eventually be successfully sued (if this got big enough to seriously threaten to effect my business, and others proposed a class action, I'd definitely join) or people will simply realize it's crap.

There's absolutely nothing viable biult into the service for interaction with people who have been maliciously or incompetently dealt unfair ratings.

Sorry, WOT, your service is BS.


c۞g
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RE: Mass Rating Tool Madness?

Post by c۞g » Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:23 am

@alecsf

You just found out about WOT - 2013
A warning comment for: excelliance.com.cn
was left 3 year ago - 2010
re: https://www.mywot.com/scorecard/excelliance.com.cn/

Helps to pay attention to the date.
However, it would be supportive if comments contain links as evidence of their claim.

NotBuyingIt
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RE: Mass Rating Tool Madness?

Post by NotBuyingIt » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:33 pm

<quote user="c۞g">
@alecsf

You just found out about WOT - 2013
A warning comment for: excelliance.com.cn
was left 3 year ago - 2010
re: https://www.mywot.com/scorecard/excelliance.com.cn/

Helps to pay attention to the date.
However, it would be supportive if comments contain links as evidence of their claim.
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That site is currently rated "Excellent" in all four components of its WOT reputation. The claims by [url=http://www.mywot.com/en/user/4877268 t=_self]alecsf[/url] that WOT provides no mechanisms to correct outdated or erroneous information are demonstrably false, at least in this case. I probably would agree that mistaking a comment posted in 2010 about the site as current criticism about it is, as alecsf puts it, "technically inept". WOT has millions of users and should only a few percent of them be inept, that could possibly still be a large number of easily "frightened" people.... so it is good of [url=http://www.mywot.com/en/user/123741 t=_self]c۞g[/url] to set the record straight. The WOT FAQ, beginners' tutorials and wiki also have plenty of information and help to set the record straight. Happy ending, at least in this case.


alecsf
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RE: Mass Rating Tool Madness?

Post by alecsf » Tue Mar 26, 2013 4:32 pm

<quote user="c۞g">
@alecsf

You just found out about WOT - 2013
A warning comment for: excelliance.com.cn
was left 3 year ago - 2010
re: https://www.mywot.com/scorecard/excelliance.com.cn/

Helps to pay attention to the date.
However, it would be supportive if comments contain links as evidence of their claim.
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@c۞g Helps to pay attention to the date.

I guess it does, if you believe the service is worth paying attention to. WOT isn't, though. We'll be igoring it / informing people that it's a badly flawed service, and encouraging others to do likewise. If WOT decide to include a kind lof 'owners redress' which allows the site owner to correct malicious / incompetent ratings in quick, efficitent contact with WOT staff, we might get involved more positivey. Right now, though, it's a train wreck, and deserves to go down. 再见!

alecsf
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RE: Mass Rating Tool Madness?

Post by alecsf » Tue Mar 26, 2013 4:45 pm

<quote user="notbuyingit">
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That site is currently rated "Excellent" in all four components of its WOT reputation. The claims by [url=http://www.mywot.com/en/user/4877268 t=_self]alecsf[/url] that WOT provides no mechanisms to correct outdated or erroneous information are demonstrably false, at least in this case. I probably would agree that mistaking a comment posted in 2010 about the site as current criticism about it is, as alecsf puts it, "technically inept". WOT has millions of users and should only a few percent of them be inept, that could possibly still be a large number of easily "frightened" people.... so it is good of [url=http://www.mywot.com/en/user/123741 t=_self]c۞g[/url] to set the record straight. The WOT FAQ, beginners' tutorials and wiki also have plenty of information and help to set the record straight. Happy ending, at least in this case.
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WOT execution is sub-crap. Your defensive arguments refuse to travel. I and billions of others will not be adding your code to ouor sites, complying with your protocols or generally saluting your BS. Your site & 'service' will be bad history within a year.

Bye.

NotBuyingIt
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RE: Mass Rating Tool Madness?

Post by NotBuyingIt » Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:42 pm

<quote user="alecsf">
WOT execution is sub-crap. Your defensive arguments refuse to travel. I and billions of others will not be adding your code to [our] sites, complying with your protocols or generally saluting your BS. Your site & 'service' will be bad history within a year.

Bye.
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'Bye, [url=http://www.mywot.com/en/user/4877268 t=_self]alecsf[/url]:

I suppose that you are aware that you are posting in the WOT users' community forums. We are not employed or otherwise paid by WOT and the WOT staff seldom participates here. The issue about your site's WOT [url=https://www.mywot.com/scorecard/excelliance.com.cn/ t=_self]scorecard[/url] apparently began in May, 2010 — a long time before I joined the community. I had never seen the scorecard before you brought it to the community's attention twelve hours ago (today, 26-May-2013). As I previously mentioned, its ratings were already very favorable when I first looked. I read another user's comment on the scorecard that he had found the site on a malware blacklist in May, 2010. Could you confirm whether you were already involved with the site in May 2010 and whether you were aware of any malware reports about it then? If malware really was found, who planted it on the site?


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RE: Mass Rating Tool Madness?

Post by Guest » Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:27 pm

<quote user="alecsf">WOT execution is sub-crap. Your defensive arguments refuse to travel. I and billions of others will not be adding your code to ouor sites, complying with your protocols or generally saluting your BS. Your site & 'service' will be bad history within a year.

Bye.
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You're serious yeah! LOL.
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What exactly are you teaching? Contempt, arrogance, poor communication skills, inability to read and digest exactly what is in front of you plus how not to approach a situation properly? Hardly good teaching is it! If anything your attitude here will do you more injustice than working to resolve this civily.

As for the billions you inform about WOT being bad. Can I have a list of those you tell ;)

Bye.


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