More granularity in URL's needed

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isaacmarcos
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More granularity in URL's needed

Post by isaacmarcos » Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:29 pm

Sites like geocity contain good and bad places. It is up to the specific website owner what is included or not.



Geocity has been rated with some low evaluations. This could be correct for the particular page that was reviewed. But there are others that were created with good intentions and serve an useful service for the web.



Could ratings be related to subpages inside a "site"?



Please fell free to discuss, give your opinion.

Sami
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re:More granularity in URL's needed

Post by Sami » Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:01 pm

We can compute reputations for pretty much any uniquely identifiable target. Back when we designed the system, we had a long discussion on what these targets should be. There were a couple of considerations to take into account:



1. It should be possible to point out a single entity that is responsible for a target. This means that we want targets that someone owns.



2. There shouldn't be too many, or too little targets. We want to divide the web in manageable, yet representative chunks.



3. The name of the target should convey us as little information about the user and her activities as possible.



Our decision was to use DNS names, because they naturally divide the web in administrative domains. Each domain name is controlled by its registered owner. If the owner wishes to share control with others, it can assign subdomains. We also believe domain names provide a good compromise between granularity and privacy.



Now, while most of the web uses domain names to manage ownership and control, there are exceptions as you pointed out. Yahoo's Geocities, for example, allows anyone to create content under their domain and uses directories to divide control between content owners. This results in the reputation for the site to be the aggregate of all the content under the domain.



To me, this is what I would expect. When I come across a random page, the first thing I look at is the domain name. If the page is hosted under geocities.com, my earlier experiences tell me that I shouldn't trust the content. As in real life, surroundings matter when it comes to trust and Geocities tends to be suspicious overall.



Of course, you have a point in wanting more of the URL to be used for identifying targets. We haven't ruled out expanding the name space in future, but at the moment, we feel domain names are the best choice all things considered.

isaacmarcos
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re:More granularity in URL's needed

Post by isaacmarcos » Thu Apr 26, 2007 10:17 pm

By reading your response i realized that trust is a dragon with too many heads.



My first aproach was to view the pages based on "is it dangerous to visit it?". Some pages on Geocities, or any other "personal page domain", are safe, others NOT.



But if sites are aproach by the question "Could i use my credit card here?". The clear response must be: "don't do it in Geocities".



So, now, i don't have a clear position on the issue.





NOTE:To have full disclosure: I don't have a page in Geocities.

Yahoo is IMHO a trusted site.

Sami
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re:More granularity in URL's needed

Post by Sami » Fri Apr 27, 2007 12:56 pm

You're absolutely correct. It's not possible to measure trust with a single value, because there are different types of trust. For example, you may be confident that someone won't steal your identity, but you may still suspect they might cheat you in a card game. This is the reason we ask users more than one question. Each question is there to measure a different kind of trust in the website.



Sure, users may still interpret the questions slightly differently and they probably have a variety of reasons for their opinions. And that's ok, because we don't aim to measure trust in surgically precise categories. While users may disagree with the exact definition of the term "business partner", the question points them all to the right overall direction.

Rafael Costa
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Internet.

Post by Rafael Costa » Mon Nov 15, 2010 6:10 am

Aunque día a día se revelan nuevos beneficios de Internet, los efectos negativos también están presentes. ¿Cuáles son? A nivel emocional, aunque Internet crea parejas a veces también las rompe. Aquellos que podrían ser considerados 'adictos', además de abandonar a sus amigos del 'mundo real', a veces ignoran a su pareja e incluso a sus hijos.

También puede acarrear muchos problemas físicos como los dolores de espalda, obesidad por la falta de ejercicio o trastornos del sueño. En casos extremos puede provocar la pérdida del puesto de trabajo por una bajada drástica en la productividad.

Así mismo, se cree que la Red podría producir una pérdida de la capacidad para relacionarse con los demás o timidez extrema. Los usuarios, acostumbrados al anonimato propio del ciberespacio, son incapaces de mantener relaciones cara a cara. Esta idea contrasta con un estudio realizado en Berlin en 1995, donde se afirma que los navegantes de Internet suelen ser más sociables y estar mejor integrados, ya que cuentan con mejores posibilidades de comunicación.

Aun existiendo la duda de si la 'adicción' a Internet existe como tal y de si ha de ser tratada como una patología, los centros, páginas web y psicólogos que ofrecen ayuda son cada vez más.

En cuanto a los Institutos que tratan este trastorno destacan como pionero el de Pittsburgh (EE UU) y el nuevo que se ha creado en Boltenhagen (Alemania), especializado en jóvenes de 10 a 17 años. Según ha declarado a elmundosalud.com su directora, Ute Garnew, tratan cualquier tipo de dependencia a los medios de comunicación e información. "Las niñas muestran más 'adicción' a la televisión y los niños a los juegos de ordenador".

También hay una serie de centros que tratan esta materia a pesar de estar especilizados en las adicciones en general. En este sentido, Alcohólicos Anónimos parece estar estudiando la posibilidad de abrir un departamento especial dedicado al abuso de Internet.

Irónicamente, la Red es la que alberga una mayor cantidad de recursos enfocados a solucionar el problema. Tests para medir el nivel de adicción, grupos de ayuda 'on line' o guías sobre el trastorno, son algunas de las soluciones que se ofrecen en la Web.

Como todo lo relacionado con la nueva tecnología, la adicción a Internet es un concepto difícil de abarcar por la cantidad de opiniones y factores implicados. Unos elementos llevan a otros, igual que ocurre en la red, lo que impide establecer una sóla dirección. SIn embargo, el consejo que se puede extraer, después de analizar todas las opiniones sobre el tema, es que lo fundamental es 'navegar' con prudencia y de forma inteligente para evitar posibles naufragios.

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