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re: Gliktch

Post by c۞g » Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:33 am

The truth about scams is that they are nothing more than scams.

I went to a psychic once, my immediate remark to them was, "you already know why I'm here." They had no clue - needless to state my opinion of psychics.

religion - I'm more or less an atheist; religion fullfils a need for weak minded individuals who have the desire to be forgiven today for what they are about to do tomorrow; there is no invisible man in the sky who created everything but can not manage his money... [url= t=_self](G.C. rip)[/url]

The only truth in politics is: there is no truth.

Easy money exists in one way — that penny you found on the street; but you need to ask yourself was the noticing, stopping, bending over, reaching down, grasping, picking up, looking at, placing in pocket... worth it?

My story was simply an account of an actual life event, there is no requirement to believe it - this is the internet.

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Post by Guest » Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:07 am

"religion fullfils a need for weak minded individuals who have the desire to be forgiven today for what they are about to do tomorrow"
While I pretty much agree with that specific statement (nice humor BTW), I wouldn't label all religious people as "weak minded" (don't know if that's what you intended).

Am not by any means a religious person myself, so I'm not defending them. But Jesuits, Thomas Aquinus, William F. Buckley Jr., and a few others I can't think of right now, are hardly "weak minded".

I think Gliktch/Cheesetrap was talking about Bible Thumping fundamentalists that promote things like "Intelligent Design" versus traditional evolution (or the morons that crashed into the World Trade Center and thought they would have 72 virgins to play with in the hereafter).

Richard Dawkins has some interesting counterarguments to that Intelligent Design stuff in his latest book.

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re: weak minded

Post by c۞g » Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:10 am

the flock of sheep didn't sound quit right, so I went with weak minded instead - those who have a need to be [url= t=_self]led.[/url]
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RE: Compliments

Post by Cheesetrap » Sun Nov 15, 2009 3:31 am

Well thanks for the kind reviews ;)

No, I don't work in marketing, though the first few years of my working life I was in sales. As a person with [url= t=_self]Asperger's Syndrome[/url], I lack the abilities which most people naturally possess, to subconsciously analyse and respond to non-verbal communication (body language, voice tonal/pitch modulation and other [url= t=_self]prosodic information[/url], facial expressions and so on), so I had to train myself to *consciously* analyse these behaviours in my day-to-day interactions with other people. Straight out of high school, I threw myself in the deep end and worked door-to-door sales for almost a year, as a kind of 'crash course' in face-to-face communication. Best thing I ever did, it got me started on the road to understanding people (including, most importantly, myself).

At the same time I also explored many related social conventions and the way various parts of society interact (commerce, the family, legislature, religion, etc). While I can't speak for all 'Aspys', I can say that at least some of us have trouble seeing the value or sense in things like [url= t=_self]pleasantries[/url], taboos, advertising, and a number of other social conventions and constructs which are essentially ubiquitous in modern life. In some contexts (especially courtship, or touchy situations like funerals), common social conventions and prohibitions can be immensely frustrating and counter-productive to the mind of someone who abhors inefficiency and excessive emotional baggage. Okay, it's difficult to properly convey the point I'm trying to make there, but suffice to say that it is only after actively pursuing understanding of these things, that I am in a position to successfully operate and flourish in a social environment; I could just have easily been a [url= t=_self]hermit pumping out code from his basement[/url] but I decided I wanted a [url= t=_self]real life[/url] instead :P

So in a way I guess I can claim to have a better understanding of human motivation than some people, as I lack many of the automatic responses that 'normal' people exhibit, and thus have to actually think before responding to social stimuli. I of course still make plenty of stupid decisions, but I know WHY they were stupid ;)

I'm not sure that this insight would have headed off the Nazis, though - if the [url= t=_self]Stanley Milgram experiment[/url] showed us anything, it's that people tend to turn off their brains (or at least their sense of personal responsibility) when asked to do something by a person with a badge. So long as we have people trained to defer to authority (everything from a parent's "Because I said so!", to full-scale religious or military indoctrination), we will have problems with those people's psyches being hijacked for nefarious purposes and detrimental agendas.

Feel free to drop me a message on [url= t=_self]my YouTube[/url] if you would like to discuss any of these topics further; it seems to be where I spend most of my time these days, when I'm not working :)

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RE: Religious nonsense

Post by Cheesetrap » Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:54 am

I wouldn't label all religious people as "weak minded"

Agreed - smart people can believe all sorts of batsh!t crazy stuff. There are probably at least some near-geniuses out there who believe in orgone or out-of-body-experiences; [url= t=_self]acupuncture[/url] or chiropractics; demons or Dianetics... I think [url= t=_self]Dr. Michael Shermer[/url] said it best (I'm paraphrasing):

"Intelligent people are better at defending notions at which they have arrived by unintelligent means." - [url= t=_self]Why People Believe Weird Things[/url]

If you raised, say, 20 kids from birth with the constantly-reinforced notion that dancing particular ways can influence the weather (but only if you get it just right), then chances are even if they're all of genius IQ that at least a few of them will retain that belief into adulthood and perhaps their whole lives; especially if their peer group and authority figures unanimously support the erroneous concept. This is currently the case in tracts of the United States, where education systems have been usurped to push religious agendas and infect the next generation with the [url= t=_self]religion mindvirus[/url]. Memetic evolution in action...

So, in a nutshell, yeah - being smart does not convey immunity from things like corrupt information and confirmation biases. Especially if an individual is infected with a mindvirus when the intellectual immune system (critical thinking skills) is underdeveloped, as in children, or that system is temporarily depressed by tragedy, addiction, personal hardship or illness (exactly the times when religion tends to pounce).

I would also point out that before things like germ theory, debunking of [url= t=_self]geocentrism[/url], space travel, evolution through natural selection, radiometric dating, and all the other monumental leaps in scientific knowledge that occurred in the past couple of centuries, it was possibly 'less stupid' to believe in certain things we know to be nonsense today. Now that we know so much about the workings of the immediate world we live in, however, we see the various gods either blink out of existence altogether, or shed their explanatory power bit by bit until they have retreated to amorphous, useless conjectures of 'higher powers' who only pop down to earth for the occasional cancer remission, lacking the traditional flamboyance associated with the mythological 'powers that be', since we actually know the causes of most natural phenomena now and have little need for gods.

This expansion of our collective knowledge forces gods to either adapt to become wispy notions of non-interventionist 'prime movers', or go the opposite route and claim things like creationism and divine medical intercession in the face of all the blatant evidence to the contrary, and fight militantly to maintain the ignorance and mis-education of their flocks.

I realize I'm rambling a bit, sorry :)

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We usually check very few things directly...

Post by phantazm » Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:01 pm

Usually we employ two indirect tests
to check if a statement is true:

The external test: If a hear/read something, I assume that a million have heard it before me. If they didn't object, then I'm probably not genius enough to be wiser than a million. So, I don't have to check it, if I 'know' everybody else already have. Of course, this test can fail. No guarantee that everybody else didn't think exactly the same. Result: everybody 'know', yet nobody verified...

The internal check: If a hear/read something, I can ask myself if it 'makes sense'. Does the new piece fit the puzzle I already have in my mind. Of course this test is fallible too. No guarantee that something is true, just because it would be be nice. I remember a warning from a long gone history author: beware of myths, sometimes they can be brilliant, and yet utterly wrong...

Btw, religion usually passes both indirect tests, and the result: hundreds of religions and thousands of gods. But only one version of science. Imagine the condition of the world, if conditions were reversed...

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supplemental hydrogen

Post by rickwelke » Mon May 10, 2010 2:12 am

Roger Leir, the podiatrist has indicated that his attempts to tweak his GEO metro with a supplemental hydrogen system has yielded results. I have no reason to doubt him, but I have not attempted to duplicate his efforts yet.

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RE: Try it?

Post by M. Eppes » Thu Jun 23, 2011 4:45 pm

Gasoline fumes can be deadly too, it doesn't mean you cannot use it for fuel. Most HHO systems use 12v or 24v DC (not AC) and unless you are very careless, it is highly unlikely that using electrodes in water to make Brown's gas with this voltage would be deadly.

On the other hand hydrogen gas will explode just like gasoline vapors will and should be handled with care.

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RE: Latest news in the "water as fuel" scam

Post by hybridman » Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:47 pm

You cannot compare the charlatan Dennis Lee to the rest of us that have legitimate businesses with real customers and results. Dennis Lee is a scammer and has always run scams. he had lousy systems and lied about the results.

We do NOT have lousy systems and have well over 2200 satisfied customers. We have been in business since 2008. You don't grow, invest in patents, building, employees, and inventory by running a scam.

Lee was all talk... we are not.

I will put money up in an escrow account if you want to do the same. Lets do a bet- I'd be glad to prove our systems work because it happens every week. You willing to put YOUR money where your mouth is?

This is a lie and false assessment of our website and we are contesting everyone that posts such lies, and will continue to do so.

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RE: Your the phoney

Post by hybridman » Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:49 pm

There are a LOT of us out here that run legitimate businesses with good generators and products. There will always be those that want to stop us from progressing forward.. Keep fighting against the lies and propaganda posted by these ne'er do wells...

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