New web site, old crime

hybridman
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RE: Scam

Post by hybridman » Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:23 am

Then it is your responsibility to rate correctly- right? Well you have not done so in my case. We are not a scam site or a dangerous/phishing site. Not even close.

We are a valid California Corp with a building, employees, office staff, and assemblers. We build and sell all over the world to over 2200 customers- many who come back and refer friends and family. Something that would NOT happen in a scam.

I sent an email out to my customers when I found out about the false ranking your site has given us- they responded by leaving 13 pages of replies and positive comments. Have you even tried to look at them? Have you taken a minute to see how our actual customers think about us and our products?
If you have any search for truth in you at all- then look at those comments and tell me to my face we are a scam site. We are not anything even remotely related.

if you want to make glib statements about the technology- that is your opinion. But if you are accusing my site and my company specifically- then give me evidence about MY COMPANY. Not the technology- not someones opinion- give me hard evidence against MY COMPANY being a scam. You won't find any because we are not.

http://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/hhokitsdirect.com

hybridman
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RE: Yet more web sites, same scam

Post by hybridman » Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:30 am

I recognize you from Youtube...you are a hateful human being and probably responsible for the attack on us there as well. Hmmm- I need to report this one...

You have not ONE SHRED of evidence my company is a scam. You only deal in generalities and lies about the technology.
Frankly- your opinion is just that, an opinion.

But you HAVE NO EVIDENCE-NOT ONE directly against my company.

So either present evidence DIRECTLY related to my company in support of your misdirected anger and false statements, or expose yourself as the liar you are.

You have no right including my site in this judgment- not one.

I have tons of evidence that our product not only works, but works well. DO you have evidence against my company directly that proves it doesn't? You want to put money down on a bet? Cause I can prove many times over ours DO work. If you are so sure they don't, then you won't mind putting up say $1000 in an escrow account on a bet right?

I'll be glad to take your money on that bet.



abc4kids
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RE: Dihydrogen Oxide

Post by abc4kids » Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:13 pm

I'm addicted to the stuff. I drink several liters a day and have no intention of stopping.
You mean water ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydrogen_monoxide )

phantazm
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Stanley Meyer's water fuel cell

Post by phantazm » Mon Aug 29, 2011 2:39 pm

The water fuel cell is a purported free energy device invented by American Stanley Allen Meyer (August 24, 1940 – March 21, 1998). He claimed that an automobile retrofitted with the device could use water as fuel instead of gasoline. The fuel cell purportedly split water into its component elements, hydrogen and oxygen. The hydrogen was then burned to generate energy, a process that reconstituted the water molecules. According to Meyer, the device required less energy to perform electrolysis than the minimum energy requirement predicted or measured by conventional science. If the device worked as specified, it would violate both the first and second laws of thermodynamics, allowing operation as a perpetual motion machine. Meyer's claims about his "Water Fuel Cell" and the car that it powered were found to be fraudulent by an Ohio court in 1996...

Read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Meyer%27s_water_fuel_cell

phantazm
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There IS such a thing as a fatal water overdose

Post by phantazm » Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:01 pm

Water intoxication, also known as hyper-hydration, water poisoning, or overhydration, is a potentially fatal disturbance in brain functions that results when the normal balance of electrolytes in the body is pushed outside of safe limits by over-consumption of water.

Normal, physically, nutritionally and mentally healthy individuals have little reason to worry about accidentally consuming too much water. Nearly all deaths related to water intoxication in normal individuals have resulted either from water drinking contests in which individuals attempt to consume large amounts of water, or long bouts of intensive exercise during which electrolytes are not properly replenished, yet excessive amounts of fluid are still consumed.

Water can be considered a poison when over-consumed just like any other substance. The recommendation from the medical field is to drink at least 1 to 2 liters per day depending upon body mass. Water intoxication would only occur at levels far higher than that...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication

PS: DHMO is only a joke, a good one, but still a joke. The warning above is NOT a joke...

Guest

RE: New web site, old crime

Post by Guest » Mon Aug 29, 2011 4:16 pm

They are still at it? I hope they know that a rookie's reputation is near to zero when he starts using WOT. LOL - they should have read the documentation before trying to manipulate anything here. A clear case of RTFM-Fail. ;-)

Kaffeetante
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RE: New web site, old crime

Post by Kaffeetante » Tue Aug 30, 2011 4:19 am

The german version of hhokits:

www.wasserauto24.de/

Edit:
And these are some of his promotion-sites:

von-wasserstoff.blogspot.com
stromnetz-herausgestellt.blogspot.com
wasserstoff-auto-elektrolyse.blogspot.com
umwandlungsprozesse-hypothetisches.blogspot.com
musstduwissen.de
energieindustrie-leitungswasser.blogspot.com
konzentriert-nternationaler.blogspot.com
offensichtlichen-komplettumbau.blogspot.com
klimasituation-energie.blogspot.com/
wasserauto-einnahmen.blogspot.com
internationaler-kraftstoffverbrauch.blogspot.com
wird-wasser.blogspot.com
leitungswasser-komplettumbau.blogspot.com
modifikationen-angenommen.blogspot.com
betreiben-einkommen.blogspot.com
angetrieben-treibstoff.blogspot.com
vorstellen-wassermotor.blogspot.com
profitieren-sparmaschinen.blogspot.com
angetrieben-werden.blogspot.com
wasserauto-benzinfahrzeuge.blogspot.com
feintuning-komplettumbau.blogspot.com
einmaligen-sonderangebot.blogspot.com
wasserauto-abgastest.blogspot.com
zeitschriften-artikel.blogspot.com
nformationen-gekauft.blogspot.com
ausprobiert-treibstoff.blogspot.com
einrichtung-effizienz.blogspot.com
vorgefertigten-informationen.blogspot.com
jemandem-materialwert.blogspot.com
vorkenntnisse-elektrolyseur.blogspot.com
reduzieren-umbauanleitung.blogspot.com
globale-kraftstoffverbrauch.blogspot.com
verstehende-wasser.blogspot.com
gewinnung-umbauanleitung.blogspot.com
kostenlose-wasserauto.blogspot.com
wasserautotechnik-wasserautotechnik.blogspot.com
woche-verringerte.blogspot.com
abgase-entstehen.blogspot.com
wasserauto-unglaublich.blogspot.com
anderem-fahrzeuge.blogspot.com
oxidierter-vorteilen.blogspot.com
verbreitet-leitungen.blogspot.com
einspritzanlage-wassereinspritzung.blogspot.com
hypothetisches-wasserauto.blogspot.com
angetrieben-fahrzeugen.blogspot.com

I don't think, that the list is complete, because he uses alias-names - Gunnar Kessler and Ronald Keszler


Kaffeetante
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RE: New web site, old crime

Post by Kaffeetante » Sat Sep 03, 2011 5:21 am

I really don't know, what the right evaluation for this sites:
Fraud?
e-book-scam?
get-quick-rich scam?
physical absurdity?

EdisonSecret.com
magniworks.net
greenmagnetenergy.com
TeslaSecret.us
MEGenerator.com

c۞g
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RE: New web site, old crime

Post by c۞g » Mon Sep 05, 2011 2:44 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hongcheng_Magic_Liquid
:)

List of domains/hosts

hhohydrogensystems.com
mileageshop.com
hydrogenjunkie.com
evolutionhho.com
hydrogencarkits.net
smacksboosters.110mb.com
hho2u.com
hho4free.com
hhogames.com
moregowithhho.com
morecoenergyllc.weebly.com
highperformancefuelcells.com
hhokit.elcarsite.com
elcarsite.com
safehho.com
genepax.com
gas4free.com
1.ckgas4free.pay.clickbank.net
ckgas4free.pay.clickbank.net
generatorh.com
discoverhydrogen.com
hhosuperpack.com
diyhhokit.com
1.diyhho.pay.clickbank.net
diyhho.pay.clickbank.net
hho-hydrogen-car.com
makefuelsafe.com
shop.makefuelsafe.com
alternativefuelenergy.net
punchhho.com
drycellplans.com
hhotorch.net
bobvolkhho.com
hhokit.net
gasconversionkits.com
hhosuperpack.com
runautowithwater.com
water4gas.com
advancedhho.com
hydro-extra.webs.com
yourcaronwaterfuel.com
mycaronwaterfuel.com
hidrogeneozero.webs.com
sites.google.com/site/moregowithhho/home Scorecard URI for MRT:
_p_onuxizjpnvxxezlhn53ws5dinbug6.sites.google.com

74.53.118.74
174.120.41.170
205.178.154.55
97.74.50.25
188.121.59.8
209.216.113.161


FYI:
Texas Attorney General charged owner of violating the Texas Deceptive Trade Practices Act (domain:water4gas.com)
re: [url=https://www.oag.state.tx.us/oagNews/release.php?id=2937 t=_self]https://www.oag.state.tx.us/oagNews/release.php?id=2937[/url]

PuddinTame
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RE: New web site, old crime

Post by PuddinTame » Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:47 am

I think this relates, the FTC has won permanent injunction against one of these companies (Dutchman):
http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2011/12/dutchman.shtm

It came up because I saw someone else rated a new (to us) site and they mentioned the judgement:
hxxp://www.moneysavingtechnology.com

Sadly it's operated by a church Pastor.

EDIT-
Better article explaining the penalties by ConsumerAffairs:
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2011/12/feds-drain-hydro-assist-fuel-cell-claims.html

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