A very HOT topic, islam-watch.org

Skander1345
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A very HOT topic, islam-watch.org

Post by Skander1345 » Sat Oct 15, 2011 2:53 pm

Ok, the site is rated green, trustworthy..
wow.. nice work WOT.

now, if we really take a look at the websites content, let's first visit, Sex in Islam.
The whole topic is talking about things they say they are mentioned in the holy Quran.

Now if we actually go verify it by reading the Quran, nothing they say there is true, completely miss-leading

On the front page, there's a topic about palestine, no one can deny, israel occupied palestine and palestine existed and still exists.. take it or leave it, the article deny's that palestine even exists based on non-trusted sources that are even written by him..

How could that website get rated green on trustworthiness and sites like radioislam.org are getting rated rated red and the votes are going down for "Racism" while islam watch is "safe" and "shows the truth"

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RE: A very HOT topic, islam-watch.org

Post by thegrimfather » Sat Oct 15, 2011 4:49 pm

Lol, Radioislam.org islam looks very anti-semetic to me, with words like "the jewish hand behind the internet"

Skander1345
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RE: A very HOT topic, islam-watch.org

Post by Skander1345 » Sat Oct 15, 2011 8:10 pm

islam-watch.org
"Islamic Slavery, Part 8: Status and Sufferings of Slaves"
"Teaching Islam to Children is Child Abuse"
"Allah Was Originally a Pre-Muslim Arabian “Moon God”

Yee.. right..

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RE: A very HOT topic, islam-watch.org

Post by Jazspeak » Sat Oct 15, 2011 9:01 pm

No malware detected on the site, and the site is not on any blacklists according to Robtex. There is no Privacy Policy that I could find, and the site drops loads of cookies but doesn't seem to have a Cookie Policy.

As for the content, is it supposed to be a satirical site, or do they expect rational and informed people to take the site content seriously?

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RE: A very HOT topic, islam-watch.org

Post by alphacentauri » Sat Oct 15, 2011 11:45 pm

The authors call themselves "nontheistic humanists." It sounds similar to the phenomenon of people raised as fundamentalist Christians who become atheists if they come to doubt the idea that God is a white male with a long beard physically located in the upper atmosphere.

Such people end up making straw man arguments against their former religion, because those extreme straw man beliefs are exactly the nonsense they were taught as children. Rather than develop a more mature understanding of their own tradition, they feel that if any part of the mythology is untenable they must reject it the entire faith.

You can find Christians making that "moon god" argument about Islam. Part of it is based on the fact the the word "Allah" existed in pre-Islamic Arabia. But "al" is just an Arabic word that means a deity, just as "el" does in Hebrew and "god" does in English. It's not meant to be a specific deity's name.

If you fully translate the Arabic into English, Muslims say, "There is no god but God, and Muhammed is his prophet." Christians originally left "Allah" untranslated as "There is no god but Allah" to make it sound like Muslims were idolators worshipping a different god than Jews and Christians, just as they used the term "Mohammedans" instead of "Muslims," to make it sound as if they were worshipping Muhammed as a god.

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RE: A very HOT topic, islam-watch.org

Post by Skander1345 » Sun Oct 16, 2011 2:54 am

<quote user="alphacentauri">
The authors call themselves "nontheistic humanists." It sounds similar to the phenomenon of people raised as fundamentalist Christians who become atheists if they come to doubt the idea that God is a white male with a long beard physically located in the upper atmosphere.

Such people end up making straw man arguments against their former religion, because those extreme straw man beliefs are exactly the nonsense they were taught as children. Rather than develop a more mature understanding of their own tradition, they feel that if any part of the mythology is untenable they must reject it the entire faith.

You can find Christians making that "moon god" argument about Islam. Part of it is based on the fact the the word "Allah" existed in pre-Islamic Arabia. But "al" is just an Arabic word that means a deity, just as "el" does in Hebrew and "god" does in English. It's not meant to be a specific deity's name.

If you fully translate the Arabic into English, Muslims say, "There is no god but God, and Muhammed is his prophet." Christians originally left "Allah" untranslated as "There is no god but Allah" to make it sound like Muslims were idolators worshipping a different god than Jews and Christians, just as they used the term "Mohammedans" instead of "Muslims," to make it sound as if they were worshipping Muhammed as a god.
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Nice work writing this :)
But still, the site is giving false info which can NOT be voted trustworthy.

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RE: A very HOT topic, islam-watch.org

Post by Guest » Sun Oct 16, 2011 3:49 am

<quote user="skander1345">
Nice work writing this :)
But still, the site is giving false info which can NOT be voted trustworthy.
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@ [url=http://www.webutation.net/go/user/skander1345 t=_self]skander1345[/url]
if you do no Trust it rate it accordingly.
I can't see any problem

The Web of Trust extension shows you which websites people trust



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RE: A very HOT topic, islam-watch.org

Post by NotBuyingIt » Sun Oct 16, 2011 4:33 am

<quote user="skander1345">
Nice work writing this :)
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@AlphaCentauri, Yes, nice work. Your thoughtful reply was respectful and sensitive to various religious and non-religious traditions. I hope none of their "followers" want to burn you at the stake.


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RE: A very HOT topic, islam-watch.org

Post by Skander1345 » Sun Oct 16, 2011 8:07 pm

<quote user="leofelix">
@ [url=http://www.webutation.net/go/user/skander1345 t=_self]skander1345[/url]
if you do no Trust it rate it accordingly.
I can't see any problem

The Web of Trust extension shows you which websites people trust
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the whole forum (this section) is made to discuss ratings, and i think that rating this site green is not right, islam-watch.org is providing false info, and radio islam is doing the same thing.

They both need red votes.

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RE: A very HOT topic, islam-watch.org

Post by Guest » Sun Oct 16, 2011 8:35 pm

<quote user="skander1345">
the whole forum (this section) is made to discuss ratings[/quote]

Nobody denied it. If your posts were against the forum guideliness, I or another moderator would have already deleted them.
If you research the forum your will find a plenty of similar threads which usually brought to nothing.

<quote user="skander1345">
They both need red votes.
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this is your opinion which evidently differs from many more wot members' opinion.

From my side I generally stay away from religious or politically involved websites, for more than a reason, eg:

Q: Are those sites engaged in the distribution of malware?
R: No
Q: Are those sites involved in frauds, scam, spam or phishing?
R: No
Q: are those sites listed in some blacklists or Trusted Sources?
R: No

So, please try to find more convincing arguments, not to count that you already had very good explanations from Jazspeak and AlphaCentauri and you got an excellent lesson of irony and humour from NotBuyingIt;)

Thanks




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