Online Pharmacy Ratings Undermine WOT Credibility and Uninsured Americans

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RE: Online Pharmacy Ratings Undermine WOT Credibility and Uninsu

Post by Guest » Wed Jun 29, 2011 12:58 pm

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@ PharmacyChecker =

Dear sir or madam , I left you a pm , which now is open to any one that says
In reference to a post left for a rogue pharmacy
R156-83-306. Drugs Approved for Online Prescribing, Dispensing, and Facilitation.

In accordance with Subsection 58-83-306(1)(c), the following legend, non-controlled drugs are approved for prescribing by an online prescriber:

(1) finasteride;

(2) sildenafil citrate;

(3) tadalafil;

(4) vardenafil hydrochlorid;

(5) hormonal based contraception (except injectable or implantable methods); and

(6) varenicline.

Non Controlled !
That was to the remarks left in scorecards by you and others that you could sell this medications w/o prescription !
[cite]Undermine WOT Credibility and Uninsured Americans[/cite]
Your lack of credibility is what is in question
Good day !
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Link please where PharmacyChecker.com stated please.

Just a side note:
a non controlled prescription can be prescribed by a doctor without being seen. A online perscriber.

Lets take a quick look at varenicline (Chantix), a stop smoking medication.
Current cost in the USA to complete the 12 week program is up to $1000.00
That's insane and gouging the those in need.

Sounds like only the rich are allowed to become healthy.

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RE: Online Pharmacy Ratings Undermine WOT Credibility and Uninsu

Post by Guest » Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:01 pm

Thanks Sami for restoring this thread. Was puzzled why a moderator would hide such.

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RE: Online Pharmacy Ratings Undermine WOT Credibility and Uninsu

Post by Guest » Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:04 pm

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No offense, but echo that! ~smiles~
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Yep and the echo continues. Certainly an overkill, and most wont read.

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Post by Guest » Wed Jun 29, 2011 4:08 pm

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Thanks Sami for restoring this thread. Was puzzled why a moderator would hide such.

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Me too.

Would be nice if the moderator explained the reasoning . . . maybe there's something here we're missing.


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RE: Online Pharmacy Ratings Undermine WOT Credibility and Uninsu

Post by Guest » Wed Jun 29, 2011 4:34 pm

@ Scientific Frontline = I was a bit furious and I did not explain myself properly

At some of the illegal sites I noticed that, those who down-rated our-post, will use these words in their text:

In accordance with Subsection 58-83-306(1)(c) of the State of Utah, these sites were allowed to sell w/o a prescription -

The medications advertised were Viagra, Propecia and other drugs that do need a prescription

I went to the official site of the Government of the state of Utah and I did study this particular law in which, only the mentioned medicines (the ones in previous post) were allowed to be sold over the internet w/o a prescription and that did not include controlled substances

I am sorry that I did not explain myself better, but as I told you I was so upset that I went out for a cigarette, until realized I did not smoke

It was a hectic day, Heidi
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RE: Online Pharmacy Ratings Undermine WOT Credibility and Uninsu

Post by alphacentauri » Wed Jun 29, 2011 4:44 pm

I have had discussions with John from LegitScript about their ratings. They distinguish "rogue" from "unapproved" pharmacies. Unapproved pharmacies aren't legal, but there's no reason to think they aren't safe. We need to pay attention to that distinction, too. Anything sold via legal Canadian drug channels was subject to the same manufacturing scrutiny as US products. The main risk is that people are fooled by websites that falsely claim to be Canadian or falsely claim to have CIPA or PharmacyChecker approval. Most people don't understand how to click through to the validation of those logos on a website. They should also understand they aren't protected by the US tort system, but it's sort of like saving money on "limited tort" auto insurance.

Websites that claim to be pharmacies but only have a post office box and just funnel orders to third countries whose quality controls are less stringent are another matter. It's true that there are some high quality pharmaceutical manufacturers in India, and that many of the generics now available in the US are manufactured there. But it's also true there is a lot of counterfeiting and adulteration. When liquid acetaminophen was taken off the market in India, the number of cases of unexplained renal failure dropped dramatically, since so many cases were due to the use of diethylene glycol syrup in children's medications. If those Indian manufacturers are reputable, then let Americans order from them directly, rather than having them hidden behind a Canadian facade. (And once you get to other Asian countries, I'm even less confident.)

@ SuperHero58: "controlled" in this context means drugs with abuse potential, like narcotics and sedatives, not all prescription drugs.

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Post by Guest » Wed Jun 29, 2011 5:52 pm

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@ SuperHero58: "controlled" in this context means drugs with abuse potential, like narcotics and sedatives, not all prescription drugs.



" The medications advertised were Viagra, Propecia and other drugs that do need a prescription "

I never said otherwise

In the other hand is not legal to dispense without a prescription

And I would not trust a pharmacy that will be willing to break the law to do business, it would not be much a problem to use it for criminal activities and at best, just send junk -

[cite]Unapproved pharmacies aren't legal, but there's no reason to think they aren't safe. [/cite]

A criminal activity is taking place the moment that a pharmacy goes illegal, how would I know that the quality is the same?

Could you trust someone that breaks such law?

Just on ethics alone, it would get a red!

"Most people don't understand how to click through to the validation of those logos on a website. They should also understand they aren't protected by the US tort system, but it's sort of like saving money on "limited tort" auto insurance."

The reason the DEA, FBI and FDA are there for, I could not imagine an American doctor breaking the law without knowing the consequences, as for the analogy of a "limited tort "auto insurance, tell that to the officer, when he or she asks you for insurance papers and see if the officer would agree to your explanation

In a nutshell there are two kinds of pharmacies, legal and illegal and I will rate those who violate the law, as not worth the seal of trust, in particular with such important issue as the health of another human -
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Post by alphacentauri » Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:53 pm

Reimporting drugs from Canada is actually more complex than legal vs. illegal. Some state governments in the US have defied federal law by having their employee prescriptions filled by reputable Canadian mail order pharmacies. It's legal to drive across the border to buy your meds, but not to have them mailed the same distance across the border in the other direction. There are stores operating quite openly that drive across the border for their customers, buy their meds, and bring them back; not sure what their legal status is. For the most part, the patent protections are the same in Canada and the US, so it's not like India where they produce generic copies of drugs still under patent protection in Europe and North America because their patents used to be for only 5 years (I think).

It's a lot like medical marijuana: It's illegal everywhere in the US by virtue of federal law, but some states have legally approved it with a doctor's prescription in defiance of federal law.

The websites that PharmacyChecker approves all require prescriptions; that's not a matter of disagreement. (However, plenty of scam websites that don't require prescriptions will display a counterfeit PharmacyChecker or "PharmaChecker" seal, just as they might use a fake WOT seal.)

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RE: Online Pharmacy Ratings Undermine WOT Credibility and Uninsu

Post by Guest » Wed Jun 29, 2011 9:10 pm

<quote user="alphacentauri">
Reimporting drugs from Canada is actually more complex than legal vs. illegal. Some state governments in the US have defied federal law by having their employee prescriptions filled by reputable Canadian mail order pharmacies. It's legal to drive across the border to buy your meds, but not to have them mailed the same distance across the border in the other direction. There are stores operating quite openly that drive across the border for their customers, buy their meds, and bring them back; not sure what their legal status is. For the most part, the patent protections are the same in Canada and the US, so it's not like India where they produce generic copies of drugs still under patent protection in Europe and North America because their patents used to be for only 5 years (I think).

It's a lot like medical marijuana: It's illegal everywhere in the US by virtue of federal law, but some states have legally approved it with a doctor's prescription in defiance of federal law.

The websites that PharmacyChecker approves all require prescriptions; that's not a matter of disagreement. (However, plenty of scam websites that don't require prescriptions will display a counterfeit PharmacyChecker or "PharmaChecker" seal, just as they might use a fake WOT seal.)
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So it's state law versus federal law in some cases?

Does legality have anything to do with safety?


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RE: Online Pharmacy Ratings Undermine WOT Credibility and Uninsu

Post by Guest » Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:06 pm

@ AlphaCentauri =

This is from the FDA
"Medication/Drugs
The Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (the Act) prohibits persons from importing into the United States any prescription drug that has not been approved for sale by the United States Food and Drug Administration (FDA), or which is adulterated or misbranded within the meaning of the Act. Moreover, in those instances where a United States manufacturer makes an FDA-approved prescription drug and sends it abroad, the Act also prohibits any person other than the original manufacturer from importing the drug back into the United States. Thus, in virtually all instances, individual citizens are prohibited from importing prescription drugs into the United States."

There is nothing complex behind this, IS illegal!
I trust the FDA to overlook the medicine or drugs that I may need, now if anyone wants to break the law is up to them, but we cannot deviate from the fact that these companies are ILLEGALLY doing business with customers from the United States, and they know it, I noticed how much they care about changing the laws in this country, but never do they say that most medications are available to low income families that make less than $24,000 a year for free or for an average of $30.00 every three months

And that there are many plans to help, those who cannot afford their medications "connection to Care" or "RX outreach "and they will not tell you because at the end what they truly care is about the money they will make by breaking the law that is unethical

Can I trust someone like that, No!

No with my health, money or personal information!

They already crossed a line, what more can they have to lose?

Nothing!

Best wishes !


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