More info on source

Esa S.
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Information sources

Post by Esa S. » Sat Jul 26, 2008 8:07 am

I see your point and we at WOT are already working to make the system more transparent when it comes to trusted sources. You can expect to see improvement as we get the next versions out.

mehfuz
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thank you Esa, you guys are

Post by mehfuz » Sat Jul 26, 2008 1:23 pm

thank you Esa, you guys are doing great job. to tell the truth i use both WOT and site advisor but i am starting to relay solely on WOT.

mehfuz
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More info on source

Post by mehfuz » Sat Jul 26, 2008 1:23 pm

WOT uses 'Spam blacklist' , 'Malware listing', hpHosts etc as source to rate site as dangerous. i want to see more info on that, what kinda lists WOT are using and a direct link to check the list. This would make WOT more credible. just saying that a particular website is in a list without showing any prove doesn't show good work

Guest

hpHosts not equal hpHosts

Post by Guest » Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:29 pm

On forum-post "http://www.mywot.com/de/forum/1338-seeking-new-trusted-sources" the hpHosts link leads to "www.it-mate.co.uk". There you can find
a link to "hpHosts Online" that points to "http://hosts-file.net". This link gives
you a "404 Not found" error, just like the link on the WOT security scorecards.
... Now, J don't trust the hpHosts scorings, because they put too much bad
security scores to websites but do not reference their sources at all ...

Sami
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Re: hpHosts

Post by Sami » Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:42 pm

Hmm, both links seem to work for me.

MysteryFCM
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@BernhardW

Post by MysteryFCM » Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:28 am

I'm a little bewildered as to why you are receiving the 404 for hpHosts, but if you like, we can work to find the cause? For example, can you access any of the following?

http://mysteryfcm.co.uk
http://forum.hosts-file.net
http://support.it-mate.co.uk

The first two are hosted on the same network as hosts-file.net, and the latter is hosted by Inspiratech 2000 Ltd on a seperate network.

If you'd like to resolve the access issues, please feel free to e-mail me at: hphosts AT it-mate DOT co DOT uk

As for my sources for sites included in hpHosts, these are varied and include;

1. Sites I come across myself
2. Sites submitted to the forums by others;

http://forum.hosts-file.net/viewforum.php?f=9

In addition to the above, older posts from the inbox are moved to the archives.

3. Sites submitted to myself via PM/e-mail
4. Sites referenced on other security sites/blogs

These include the Vital Security, Internet Storm Center (ISC), Bharath, DNS-BH, Clean The Net (CNT), Gary Warner (Cybercrime and Doing Time), Flash's Security Blog, SudoSecure, Honey Blog, amongst many others.

5. Sites submitted to vURL Online
6. Sites submitted to other malware analysis/research sites, which include Malwarebytes, TeMerc Internet Countermeasures, Spyware Warrior, Malware Domain List, and various private forums that are dedicated to the security vendor community (their rules prevent my posting them here).

There are likely other sources I've forgotten to mention.

Guest

404 not found

Post by Guest » Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:12 am

Thank you for your attention,

to the "http://forum.hosts-file.net" link j get the "404 not found" answer too, the other 2 are o.k.
Is it maybe because j'm surfing from Tunisia, where the backbone is under censorship ?

MysteryFCM
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It's certainly possible,

Post by MysteryFCM » Wed Jul 30, 2008 12:04 pm

It's certainly possible, yes. However, I'd be a little surprised (not to mention annoyed with whoever controls your censor) since it's not blocking the other site on the same network.

If you're comfortable doing it, you may want to use a proxy such as Tor, to prevent any blocks on websites.

Tor (official website):
http://www.torproject.org/

Tor Online*:
https://tor-proxy.net/cgi-bin/enc/nph-proxy_jap.cgi

Tor Firefox addon:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/5833

* Tor Proxy.Net is not an official part of the Tor project, it's just a web based service that uses Tor to provide access to those that use it.

Can you post tracert results to show if and where it's being blocked?

Start > Run and type:

tracert hosts-file.net

To have the tracert results outputted to a Notepad (.txt) file, enter the following;

tracert hosts-file.net >> tracert.txt

Then to load the file, enter;

tracert.txt

logicman
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Re: security site blocking.

Post by logicman » Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:22 pm

All 3 links work for me.

I have seen reports on the web about company policy blocking security-related sites. Anyone trying to access these sites from work may find them blocked.

The reason is sound - security professionals who administer networks don't want non-admins to go to security sites and start 'tinkering' with computer settings.

:-)

MysteryFCM
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Can't say I blame them ;)

Post by MysteryFCM » Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:27 pm

Can't say I blame them ;) (was the same myself when I admin'd a company network, though I tended to lock the system down rather than block sites (owner of the company didn't want sites blocked unless they were malicious))

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