Untrusted site gets green donut

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Apple Computer: Parler hasn't resolved "Dangerous And Harmful Content"

Post by NotBuyingIt » Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:07 pm

Forbes (09-Janurary-2021)
“We have always supported diverse points of view being represented on the App Store, but there is no place on our platform for threats of violence and illegal activity,” Apple said … “Parler has not taken adequate measures to address the proliferation of these threats to people’s safety. We have suspended Parler from the App Store until they resolve these issues.”
source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnkoetsier/2021/01/09/apple-suspends-parler-from-app-store-until-dangerous-and-harmful-content-resolved/?sh=118d31ee448f (my emphasis)

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Re: Untrusted site gets green donut - #MachineLearning

Post by Myxt » Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:29 am

So I have a question; perhaps @MyWOT-Team could answer ...

Are there any #UnratedSites (having zero user ratings, either anonymous or commented) that are #Categorized as #Unsafe (with corresponding low trust score) by WoT's #MachineLearning (and not so categorized by another algorithm or a human)?

We used to have tons of them (even considering the very small weight of electrons).

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Re: Untrusted site gets green donut

Post by A440 » Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:25 pm

Amazon has provided over 100 examples of violent Parler content – including death threats against prominent Democrats, Republicans, and tech executives as well as supporters of Black Lives Matter, – which was not removed for violating Amazon's TOS as well as Parler's TOS:
https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-responds-to-parler-lawsuit-cites-violent-content-section-230-2021-1:
"This case (suit) is not about suppressing speech or stifling viewpoints. It is not about a conspiracy to restrain trade," Amazon argued in the court filing. "Instead, this case is about Parler's demonstrated unwillingness and inability to remove... content that threatens the public safety, such as by inciting and planning the rape, torture, and assassination of named public officials and private citizens."
Addtionally, Parler users have been tracked during the incident at the Capitol building, using Parler to coordinate their actions:
Gizmodo has mapped nearly 70,000 geo-located Parler posts and on Tuesday isolated hundreds published on January 6 near the Capitol where a mob of pro-Trump supporters had hoped to overturn a democratic election and keep their president in power. . . While Gizmodo’s report doesn’t show how wide-spread the problem was on the site, it certainly shows that that Parler was actively used by people who took place in the attack. It goes into detail about what the mob did, and how the GPS data shows certain moments. . .
https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/12/22227986/gizmodo-parler-gps-data-shows-capitol-mob-locations

There is such a thing as "free speech" but then there is the consequences of having free speech.
See: https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/free-speech-doesn-t-mean-speech-free-all-consequences-despite-ncna1026911

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Re: Untrusted site gets green donut

Post by Site-rater » Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:40 pm

It appears the site is no longer tagged as safe, either because user ratings have hit a threshold or due to the "machine learning" unable to scan it at this time.

That said, there are some white supremacist comments at https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/stormfront.org that I have reported to the admins.

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Re: Untrusted site gets green donut

Post by Myxt » Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:08 am

Here is a site for which "machine learning" and "trusted sources" are clearly absent:
https://www.mywot.com/scorecard/ia801405.us.archive.org
As of this post, the site is "Considered safe by WOT", Trust=61/100, Child_Safety=92/100

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Re: Untrusted site gets green donut

Post by Site-rater » Wed Feb 17, 2021 1:46 am

As a follow-up, the site continues to earn a poor user rating bit WOT is still claiming it is safe, defying the will of the WOT community.

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Re: Untrusted site gets green donut

Post by Myxt » Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:55 am

Here, I think*, might be examples of "machine learning"; WoT considers these "unsafe":
_ https://www.mywot.com/scorecard/g00berd0bb0bber987345.com
_ https://www.mywot.com/scorecard/bibbeldywordsaladoysteregg.xyz
but WoT considers these "safe":
_ https://www.mywot.com/scorecard/bibbeldywordsaladoysteregg.com
_ https://www.mywot.com/scorecard/megalomanicclamshells.org
_ https://www.mywot.com/scorecard/clandestineporkbellies.gov
Of course I can't know for certain, but I believe none of the above have been rated, either by Trusted Sources or by WoT members, *because I just now made them up with the intent of making their names very bad SEO unlikely to be chosen for branding.

For comparison, "We couldn't find reviews for (domain_name)" is properly (I think*) displayed for:
_ https://www.mywot.com/scorecard/3q45e87gefkjhg.com
_ https://www.mywot.com/scorecard/3q45e87gefkjhg.edu
_ https://www.mywot.com/scorecard/3q45e87gefkjhg.net
_ https://www.mywot.com/scorecard/3q45e87gefkjhg.org
i.e., "machine learning" has no opinion of these equally poorly named domains *which I also just made up; but it doesn't like:
_ https://www.mywot.com/scorecard/3q45e87gefkjhg.biz

More (yes these are actual scorecards):
_ _ _safe: https://www.mywot.com/scorecard/*.com
_ _ _safe: https://www.mywot.com/scorecard/*.net
_ _ _safe: https://www.mywot.com/scorecard/.xxx
!reviews: https://www.mywot.com/scorecard/.com _ :roll:

If the machine is analyzing domain names and TLDs, its decisions seem random, when it isn't sleeping on the job. Trusted Sources do not appear to be in use at all, which is a shame because they would dynamically reveal many bad sites before WoT members notice them, and their ratings would be dynamically removed as owners clean up their sites.

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Re: Untrusted site gets green donut

Post by Site-rater » Fri Feb 19, 2021 6:59 pm

I did notice that the "Considered safe by WOT" disappeared while the site was shut down.

It appears the scorecard is also getting abusive 5-star reviews that often insult those who disagree with extremism and terrorism.

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Re: Untrusted site gets green donut

Post by Site-rater » Sat Mar 06, 2021 1:23 am

The site is being rated as Safe for Children - possibly due to few people posting a Child Safety tag such as Gruesome or Shocking.

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