ICANN approves .XXX red-light district for the Internet

phantazm
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"Geeeezzz, I never thought of that..."

Post by phantazm » Tue Mar 22, 2011 12:01 pm

BobJam: "The fact that we can't think of exceptions doesn't mean there isn't one.
Haven't you ever said to yourself. "Geeeezzz, I never thought of that."?"


Of course; happens all the time. In fact, while I was reading your post, someone on TV said something like "Geeeezzz, I never.." in the background. But I was probably not precise enough: I didn't mean a single person, spending less than a minute to reach the conclusion "I can't think of any...". I rather meant that if everybody thought about it, for a long time, and yet no examples at all.

Ok, the essence of what I meant is something like "let's not just guess, let's know for sure..."

The problem could be solved easily, imo. If people wanting to buy a .XXX TLD was asked a simple question:

"You are aware that XXX means SEX, aren't you..?"

If they answered "no" to that, then the next question could be:

"Where have you been the last hundred years?" or perhaps "What planet did you come from, originally..?"

A com domain doesn't have to be commercial, but a biz domain has to be.
If a similar restriction was placed upon XXX, then the problem would vanish.

In the end it's a question of correct labels.

If I bought a bottle of acid, and discovered that it was milk instead, then I would be disappointed but it would be a harmless mistake. The reverse case would not. Nevertheless the bottle of acid should automatically be categorized as "adults only".
If that was a mistake, it could be corrected, without any harm to the customers. Similar with the XXX domain...

If a person is ignorant enough to buy an XXX domain
without knowing the meaning of that, then
I wouldn't trust the content anyway...

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RE: ICANN approves .XXX red-light district for the Internet

Post by Guest » Tue Mar 22, 2011 12:23 pm


ICM registry accepting registration for .xxx domains...


.XXX domain registrations will be available if and when ICANN approves ICM's contract to operate the .XXX TLD.


...good joke!!!

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RE: "Geeeezzz, I never thought of that..."

Post by Guest » Tue Mar 22, 2011 1:35 pm

@ phantazm,

"I rather meant that if everybody thought about it, for a long time, and yet no examples at all."
So what would be the time limit for establishing that we "know for sure"?

phantazm
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"So what would be the time limit ..."

Post by phantazm » Tue Mar 22, 2011 6:28 pm

How much time? Time enough to ask everybody if they can recall any cases at all.
Time enough to consider possible cases, even if they haven't happened yet...

In any case I still think the point is simpler; any person dumb enough to buy a XXX domain,
without knowing its true meaning, would not deserve much trustworthiness anyway...

But, if you still want a time limit, I think this issue will be resolved next year. If not sooner...

PS: If people really are totally ignorant/confused, they should perhaps request a new tld; how about WTF..?

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RE: ICANN approves .XXX red-light district for the Internet

Post by SeanW » Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:57 pm

I think a .xxx TLD is a good idea. So many porn sites, seems a good idea to categorise them.

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RE: ICANN approves .XXX red-light district for the Internet

Post by Jazspeak » Tue Mar 22, 2011 10:21 pm

"I think a .xxx TLD is a good idea."

I also think that it would be a good idea but the successful take-up of the TLD will surely depend on whether those porn site owners think that it is a good idea. After all, if only a few, or none, of the porn site owners take up using the suffix then it will sink without trace.

One reason why porn site owners might not take up the suffix, unless forced to do so, is the ease with which browsers and search engines will be able to block those sites and domains. Simply placing *.xxx in a search engine's block list will mean that porn sites will get no visitors, and I can't envisage porn site owners being happy with that possibility.

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RE: ICANN approves .XXX red-light district for the Internet

Post by Nulander » Wed Mar 23, 2011 1:05 am

If the "M" rated website present a Child Parental Advisory very clear, an ICRA/RTA banner and try to prevent the children from accessing the contents, as much they can, I don't see the point on rating them red about Child Safety. They're doing their best on it.
Personally, I think that too much people have misconceptions about the usage of such rating-bar that should distinguish the website that do not present any child protection, with the ones that implement quite every strategy in other to enforce that aspects (and in some cases, even promove the protection of children from contents not suitable for them).

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RE: "Geeeezzz, I never thought of that..."

Post by alphacentauri » Wed Mar 23, 2011 2:59 am

I think in this case it is a tautology. Rated X means no one under 17, even with a parent. XXX is used by marketers who want customers to know it's the real thing, totally unsuitable for those under 17.

In movies, the X rating is imposed by the MPAA. But in this case, the TLD is available voluntarily. So far no one is forcing a site with porn to use it if they don't want to be considered not-safe-for-children. (OTOH, I can totally see registrars making that a policy.)

WOT currently blurs sites that don't have sufficient child safety input from reviewers yet, so it's not as if automated decisions aren't already part of it. If someone decides to chose a TLD that means "no one under 17" but doesn't want a low child safety rating, I think it's sufficient to have a WOT policy that XXX is automatically a low child safety unless the domain owner requests the site be reviewed as possibly child safe.

I suspect most WOT users would be surprised if it were any other way, including the owners of XXX domains, who might be highly upset if WOT said their sites were child safe -- that would discourage their potential customers.

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RE: ICRA

Post by c۞g » Wed Mar 23, 2011 3:21 am

FYI

ICRA has been "dead" for about a year now.
http://www.icra.org/
Upon the recent decision of FOSI's Board of Directors, the ICRA labeling engine has been discontinued. While all current labels will continue to work with Internet content filters, the ICRA label generator, ICRA tools and Webmaster support will no longer be available.

ChildSafe at http://www.childsafe.com/
is "dead" also, it now redirects to: thetoyman.com (?)

however, http://www.iwatchdog.org/ remains active.

RTA is similar and reserved only for sites having adult content: http://www.rtalabel.org/

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