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Re: Erste Meldung + von MyWOT gekauftes Zertifikat

Post by Sami » Fri Jan 08, 2010 3:08 pm

The Google translation makes no sense for the most part. Someone posted a message on your board and apparently that's a problem, because someone might sue you for the message that's on your board...? Perhaps someone could explain the issue?

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Post by Kraftwerk » Fri Jan 08, 2010 3:43 pm

ich glaube du schießt über das Ziel hinaus.

1. Gibt es auch auf dem Board die Möglichkeit der privat nachricht.

2. Das mit der Anonymität stimmt absolut ,auch der Schutz ist mir wichtig, allein schon wegen der scientologyseiten, die ich bewertet und kommentiert habe. Aber wie kommste darauf,daß jemand deinen identität veröffentlich( was natürlich gegen Regeln und auch Gesetzte wär)?

3. Das mit der ip verstehe ich nicht. Warum soll die auf dem board stehen?

4. Den account kannst du selbst löschen.

Nebenbei: Bei Bewertungen und Massenbewertungen kann man sich vertuen oder die seiten ändern sich. da sollte man als verantwortungsbewusster user doch ansprechbar sein. du selbst hast es erlebt, dass wegen dir ein thema eröffnet werden musste.


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Re: Erste Meldung + von MyWOT gekauftes Zertifikat

Post by Kraftwerk » Fri Jan 08, 2010 3:55 pm

He seems to be pretty upset.

I´ll try to translate, but for me the text is not so easy also :

someone postet on his board. the site of this guy is well protected by a bought wot certificate.
he noticed a wrong positive comment of a gambling site. the author itself offers a huge amount of good and bad paidmailers. franky4you would like to rate the site red because of pop ups and content. But he doesn´t.
"Dear wot, if you want to get me out, just terminate my account and send me a nice message. that would be less annoying than thaht what i have to expect.
So guys, i´m fed up with wot for today"


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Post by The Big Bin » Fri Jan 08, 2010 4:19 pm

Hi Sami,

perhaps I can help out a little. As you were assuming, franky4you said he thinks it's very dangerous to have PMs enabled because he feels responsible for them and is afraid of being sent to court, and therefor will close his account if the public messages aren't disabled again. Instead, he suggests always having PMs turned on, but leaving the public board optional.

But I must say I agree with Blueberry Mountain, it's not as dangerous as you might think. You simply aren't responsible for stuff other people write on WOT.

OK I wanted to say more here, but I decided to delete it since I don't wanna say anything incorrect about law - I might be responsible for what I (myself) write. Your overall concern about responsibility on WOT in Germany is totally correct, as you can see I have it too. I really hate always having to think twice before posting!

But really don't worry about what other people do. It's not YOUR board, it's WOT's board they use for your account :-)

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Post by The Big Bin » Fri Jan 08, 2010 4:22 pm

Hi Sami and Blueberry, your're both right.

Btw, WOT aren't in America, they're in Finland ;-)


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Btw, WOT aren't in America,

Post by Guest » Fri Jan 08, 2010 4:43 pm

Btw, WOT aren't in America, they're in Finland ;-)

Well nothings perfect.... LMAO

Ok would someone if they get the time send me a link on the German law in question. Just curious.
I know you krauts are barbarian, but can't be that bad. (keep in mind from Germany and most family there... so no offense intended)
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reminds me of

Post by c۞g » Fri Jan 08, 2010 5:30 pm

Starting to remind me of: previous Marco Borne discussions:
[url=http://www.mywot.com/forum/2094-user-attacks-me t=_self]User Attacks Me[/url]
[url=http://www.mywot.com/forum/3002-threaten-with-a-lawsuite-because-of-wot-comments t=_self]Threaten with a lawsuit because of WOT comments[/url]
[url=http://www.mywot.com/forum/3067-wot-attacked t=_self]WOT attacked[/url]

The topic of this thread is quite simple.
If you mass-rate you *will* misrate some websites. If you use reputable blacklists, you will rate sites that have become compromised and your rating should be temporarily.

Disallowing other WOT Members to contact you by turning off your board from other users such as those of us on these forums, site owners, or anyone else who has WOT installed makes it appear that you are "hiding" and is an irresponsible act on your part.

German law, as has been discussed in the above linked entries, has no effect to WOT which is based in Finland. As for a German user protecting his/herself, allow me to quote [url=http://www.mywot.com/user/44309 t=_self]soran[/url]
[url=http://www.mywot.com/forum/3002-threaten-with-a-lawsuite-because-of-wot-comments t=_self]source[/url]

Therefore my tip for german users.

Don't be visible to the public. Don't fill out any homepage, twitter account, flicr account, linkin, facebook, homepage addresses or something else on WOT that somebody is able to find out your real name. The good news : WOT will be handled serious by cheaters because WOT is endanger there business.


IF you receive a PM on your board, public or private;y viewable, and that PM suggests harassment by another WOT member, report it - let WOT Staff handle it, they will delete it from your board, or contact you through your board when they take necessary action.

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Post by The Big Bin » Fri Jan 08, 2010 5:32 pm

Well, as I said earlier, franky4you isn't completely right, he is not the service provider and (especcially if he can't control it) isn't responsible for what other people do on a site where he is just a user.

What I would find interesting in this context is this one
http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/tmg/__10.html

but that doesn't apply to franky4you because he isn't the service provider.

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website reputation rating

Post by c۞g » Fri Jan 08, 2010 5:43 pm

is not an "illegal act" even in Germany.
Otherwise... there would be no German website blacklists online, such as the globally respected [url=http://www.clean-mx.de/ t=_self]Clean-MX[/url]
ever look at an hpHosts database [url=http://hosts-file.net/?s=sysprotector.com t=_self]report page[/url] - Additional Options, on the right side column?
or maybe subscribe to [url=http://lists.clean-mx.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/viruswatch t=_self]VirusWatch[/url] or [url=http://lists.clean-mx.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/phishwatch t=_self]PhishWatch[/url]?
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Post by The Big Bin » Fri Jan 08, 2010 5:57 pm

That's right - with a couple of exceptions

(such as
http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/stgb/__186.html )

I'm not completely sure whether that applies to WOT though..


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