Problems with the website

A440
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Re: Can not delete post

Post by A440 » Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:10 am

NotBuyingIt wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 20, 2020 11:49 am
I've removed the comment from that thread, although it may continue to appear in the index of your forum posts. "Obsolete" comments are sometimes helpful for research purposes, though. I usually prefer to edit my old comments to update them instead of deleting them.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/a_bad_penny_always_turns_up
Much thanks. I just want any entry I make to be accurate and relevant. Rating a retired site is not very relevant or useful.

Benzyl
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Re: Problems with the website

Post by Benzyl » Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:01 pm

Still not fixed the failure to post bug I see, after how many years? Most attempts at a first website review result in the page refreshing and no review being visible although reviews that aren't the first ones appear promptly at the top of the list. Here's an example of one (of many) from today that's visible in my profile but gives a "We couldn't find reviews for" when you search directly - securly-gains.com . If you don't care why should anybody else?

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Re: Problems with the website

Post by NotBuyingIt » Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:59 am

Benzyl wrote: ↑
Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:01 pm
Still not fixed the failure to post bug I see, after how many years? Most attempts at a first website review result in the page refreshing and no review being visible although reviews that aren't the first ones appear promptly at the top of the list. Here's an example of one (of many) from today that's visible in my profile but gives a "We couldn't find reviews for" when you search directly - securly-gains.com . If you don't care why should anybody else?
Your site reviews and ratings will typically take a day or two to appear on a WoT scorecard. This may be unfortunate for other users who could urgently benefit from your contributions in the meantime. Were you to immediately repost a new site review of an unrated website, the WoT system may sometimes create a scorecard and generate its so-called Machine Learning opinion of the site.

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Re: Problems with the website

Post by Benzyl » Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:18 pm

But it seems so random, some of the reviews publicly appear instantly and some only appear in my profile and stay that way forever. I reviewed trakgobigmedia.com ezshipfast.com down2yournews5.com months ago and they're still stuck at "be the first", I could review them again and they would appear in my profile and nowhere else till they rolled off the bottom. If there's already a review in place and I'm not the first it appears fine but if I am the first to attempt a review its about 50/50 whether it'll appear or not although I had noticed if the text box and star rating are visible those ones always work but when the page looks like this with no text box - https://i.imgur.com/qKl4hov.jpg they never go public, like I said, seemingly random with no way of predicting if it'll get blackholed or not.

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Re: Problems with the website

Post by Myxt » Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:34 am

Benzyl wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:18 pm
first | random
Confirmed, reported to support@mywot.com 2 days ago. Response late yesterday says they're investigating.

Just now, I invented a very long, ridiculous, unlikely domain name. My rating & comment posted immediately to its scorecard.

And have a look: https://www.mywot.com/scorecard/securly-gains.com

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Re: Problems with the website

Post by NotBuyingIt » Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:30 am

Benzyl wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:18 pm
I reviewed trakgobigmedia.com ezshipfast.com down2yournews5.com months ago and they're still stuck at "be the first"...
After I submitted a rating without a comment for trakgobigmedia.com — not down2yournews5.com as I originally wrote (sorry!)— Benzyl's review appeared on the WoT website's scorecard subdirectory for that site (trakgobigmedia.com). I didn't rate the other two above-mentioned sites and their scorecards in the WoT website subdirectory remain blank. However, Benzyl's reviews of them appear in the WoT addon pop-up.
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Myxt wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:34 am
Just now, I invented a very long, ridiculous, unlikely domain name. My rating & comment posted immediately to its scorecard.
My usual experience is that reviews of previously unrated websites are immediately accessible through the WoT add-on but are not displayed on the mywot.com website's scorecard subdirectory for a day or two. My impression is that WoT delays, for much longer than several years ago, using newly submitted ratings in its calculation of a site's reputation score.

For as long as I can remember, WoT has automatically created a scorecard when ratings are submitted for a fictitious domain or subdomain. provided the TLD is valid. Likewise, WoT will display a scorecard for fictitious websites. What is new, though, is WoT displays a "Machine Learning" opinion of subdomains about which it has no data, including fictitious subdomains; (e.g., this-subdomain-is-fictitious.example.com ). Evidently, when WoT has recorded no ratings for a domain, its default opinion for any derivative subdomain is "Considered safe by WOT". :roll:
Last edited by NotBuyingIt on Tue Oct 27, 2020 3:55 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Reason: (edited 27 October 2020) Corrected domain name in my remark about Benzyl's review

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Re: Problems with the website

Post by Myxt » Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:30 am

NotBuyingIt wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:30 am
Benzyl wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:18 pm
I reviewed trakgobigmedia.com ezshipfast.com down2yournews5.com months ago and they're still stuck at "be the first"...
After I submitted a rating without a comment for down2yournews5.com, Benzyl's review appeared on the WoT website's scorecard subdirectory for that site. I didn't rate the other two above-mentioned sites and their scorecards in the WoT website subdirectory remain blank. However, Benzyl's reviews of them appear in the WoT addon pop-up.
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Myxt wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:34 am
Just now, I invented a very long, ridiculous, unlikely domain name. My rating & comment posted immediately to its scorecard.
My usual experience is that reviews of previously unrated websites are immediately accessible through the WoT add-on but are not displayed on the mywot.com website's scorecard subdirectory for a day or two. My impression is that WoT delays, for much longer than several years ago, using newly submitted ratings in its calculation of a site's reputation score.

For as long as I can remember, WoT has automatically created a scorecard when ratings are submitted for a fictitious domain or subdomain. provided the TLD is valid. Likewise, WoT will display a scorecard for fictitious websites. What is new, though, is WoT displays a "Machine Learning" opinion of subdomains about which it has no data, including fictitious subdomains; (e.g., this-subdomain-is-fictitious.example.com ). Evidently, when WoT has recorded no ratings for a domain, its default opinion for any derivative subdomain is "Considered safe by WOT". :roll:
O_o _ _ _ down2yournews5.com won't load (so I can't check via browser extension), and the scorecard (subdirectory) looks empty. The scorecard for ezshipfast.com appears empty and the extension reports nothing. However, trakgobigmedia.com returns 404, its scorecard shows Benzyl's comment and the extension mirrors it in the toolbar icon, on-page warning, and on-demand pop-up.

Other than grading search results and the occasional warning, I disregard the extension's pop-up because it is not the way I wish to be informed of malware (in any case, it's infinitely slower than my local security), it's format is too cramped, it contains some inaccuracy (e.g., I'm not Bronze), and I can easily recognize and ignore anything else unsavory. Ultimately, the pop-up's upper-most suggestion is to "View full scorecard" - a common web design method of showing a primitive teaser pop-up to suggest that the user load an additional page to view the full, definitive source behind the primitive. The source - the scorecard - should have a completeness and originality which precedes the primitive.

The delay was originally 24 hours, then extended to 2 days (and then waffled after that), to frustrate reliability-gaming by would-be "power users". Beyond valid TLDs, Sami once declared quite simply that scorecards exist for all possible domains. Regarding ML, I'll see it when I believe it; and considering what I've seen so far, I'm not there yet - especially if the "machine" does not yet know that <no data>=<no data>. That's a prerequisite to ML 101. More likely, this has been overridden by humans who wish to avoid confrontations with domain owners who can't distinguish gray from red, or humans who wish to promote that WoT has rated a great many more domains (currently 1.74B) than it actually has.

What I do see seems best described by Benzyl: randomness, which suggests too many ingredients and not enough cooks. Users Benzyl, Myxt, and NotBuyingIt should, at any given moment, be able to see the same results in the scorecard and mirrored by the extension, regardless if those results make sense (e.g., phosphorescent purple weasels), and we don't even have that. So I'm going to add these latest posts to the report.

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Re: Problems with the website

Post by NotBuyingIt » Tue Oct 27, 2020 3:42 pm

Myxt wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:30 am
NotBuyingIt wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:30 am
Benzyl wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:18 pm
I reviewed trakgobigmedia.com ezshipfast.com down2yournews5.com months ago and they're still stuck at "be the first"...
After I submitted a rating without a comment for down2yournews5.com, Benzyl's review appeared on the WoT website's scorecard subdirectory for that site. I didn't rate the other two above-mentioned sites and their scorecards in the WoT website subdirectory remain blank. However, Benzyl's reviews of them appear in the WoT addon pop-up.
O_o _ _ _ down2yournews5.com won't load (so I can't check via browser extension), and the scorecard (subdirectory) looks empty. The scorecard for ezshipfast.com appears empty and the extension reports nothing. However, trakgobigmedia.com returns 404, its scorecard shows Benzyl's comment and the extension mirrors it in the toolbar icon, on-page warning, and on-demand pop-up.
Opps, I made a sloppy cut-and-paste error. I rated trakgobigmedia.com (the first of the three listed domains), not down2yournews5.com (which I've never rated). Thanks for check it out, Myxt. Sorry for not being more careful about that. :oops:

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Re: Problems with the website

Post by Myxt » Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:15 am

NotBuyingIt wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 27, 2020 3:42 pm
Myxt wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:30 am
NotBuyingIt wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:30 am

After I submitted a rating without a comment for down2yournews5.com, Benzyl's review appeared on the WoT website's scorecard subdirectory for that site. I didn't rate the other two above-mentioned sites and their scorecards in the WoT website subdirectory remain blank. However, Benzyl's reviews of them appear in the WoT addon pop-up.
O_o _ _ _ down2yournews5.com won't load (so I can't check via browser extension), and the scorecard (subdirectory) looks empty. The scorecard for ezshipfast.com appears empty and the extension reports nothing. However, trakgobigmedia.com returns 404, its scorecard shows Benzyl's comment and the extension mirrors it in the toolbar icon, on-page warning, and on-demand pop-up.
Opps, I made a sloppy cut-and-paste error. I rated trakgobigmedia.com (the first of the three listed domains), not down2yournews5.com (which I've never rated). Thanks for check it out, Myxt. Sorry for not being more careful about that. 8-)
OMG: EARTH-SHATTERING ERROR - not, and doesn't matter: the site could have been taken down in the intervening hours; that's why I only wrote what I saw and concluded "random" based on multiple observations. The bottom line on this is that when John Q Public makes the effort to post something, it should appear, and he should not need to go the extra miles to get a dubious explanation of why maybe not - this is a public-facing way to encourage participation.

Update (maybe not so random):
The devs say our descriptions suggest faults in algorithmic detection of disingenuous scorecard activity. I.e., they're on it.
))) Paging Rev. Bayes (((

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Site reviews not showing

Post by sir1963 » Tue Nov 10, 2020 10:40 pm

I have posted some site reviews on MYWOT
However, when I check them again the site says "We couldn't find reviews for ....", yet when I check my profile, they show there. Some sites do show, and at one point I posted 4 reviews and only 1 showed publicly, the other 3 were "We couldn't find reviews for ... "

I have checked them will different browsers, different IPs, when not logged in and the same issue, the reviews of certain web sites are missing.

The missing sites seem to be for Russian based "Canadian Pharmacy" sites, or make money fast with Bitcoin scams, etc.
for example "bicoinsprofit.com" , "saletrybest.su"

This worries me as I had always accepted that MYWOT had an excellent reputation and would hate them to self destruct.
I would love to know if anyone else has noticed the same behaviour

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