pronline.ru

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RE: pronline.ru

Post by c۞g » Fri Feb 03, 2012 9:09 pm

Russian site, should have Russian users evaluate / rate / comment / offer feedback.
Using a translator such as translate.google.com is cumbersome

Press Release online (pronline.ru) - [url=http://bgp.he.net/dns/pronline.ru t=_self]H.E.[/url]
"How it works"
1] create account on pronline.ru
2] select media / blogger category (categories?)
3] Post your press release into a convenient and understandable form, giving it an optimum view with hints, and click "Publish."

You tell what you want! Мы доносим ваши новости до широкого круга потребителей! We deliver your news to a broad range of consumers!

Exactly how is that done (accomplished)?

Viewing translat4d pages, the footer remain constant:
* Why PRonline
* Как это работает How it works
* Для кого For whom
* Консалтинг Consulting
* Тарифы Rates
* Партнеры Partners
* FAQ FAQ

Our service works for you 24 hours a day, 7 days a week!


I find no Terms of Use / Service or a Privacy Policy in the page footer, though a privacy policy appears to have been offered in the OP

The registration page: hXXp://pronline.ru/Registration.aspx
requests user information:
Name (first)
Surname (last)
Company
Phone
Email
Password / confirm PW

This is collecting PII / Personally Identifiable Information when requiring name (especially separated in first/last fields), phone number, and an email address - not to mention user IP (server logs) and the information obtainable from browser [url=http://oreilly.com/openbook/cgi/ch02_02.html t=_self]environment variables[/url]

Requesting this data is fine for a registration, but it should be transferred securely over HTTPS
pronline.ru does not have an SSL Certificate = [url=http://www.sslshopper.com/ssl-checker.html?hostname=pronline.ru t=_self]look[/url]

Domain was created back in August of 2000
There is no evidence of Phishing history - [url=http://support.clean-mx.de/clean-mx/phishing.php?sort=firstseen%20desc&domain=pronline.ru t=_self]CleanMX[/url]
In 2009 there is a plethora of recorded incidents concerning malware, but these are isolated to the year 2009 and all are closed (dead) - [url=http://support.clean-mx.de/clean-mx/viruses.php?sort=firstseen%20desc&domain=pronline.ru t=_self]CleanMX[/url]
Anyone who offered poor ratings concerning malware should delete their ratings and remove thier comment - even the scorecard shows removal of trusted sources with the notice:
Previous blacklisting by a trusted source may still affect this site's reputation. Leave your rating to remedy this.

In my opinion the site is clean concerning threats - no malware example [url=http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=pronline.ru t=_self]SafeBrowsing report[/url]

However, I could not offer ratings for a site which does not [yet?] ensure privacy for their clients (no SSL) and does not visibly link to a Terms of Use and Privacy Policy in all page footers. - legal documents that not only appease the visitor, but protects the site / domain owner(s) as well.

COOKIES:
visiting: hXXp://pronline.ru/
domain drops cookies
but more importantly there is an enormous amount of 3rd-party domains which drop cookies as well.
For a cookie to be added to my cache, I must visit the site, whether I intend to or not.
In this case, there is an extreme amount of HTTP requests being made "on my behalf" by pronline.ru - NOT acceptable.

[url=http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg689/scaled.php?server=689&filename=proline0cookies.png&res=medium t=_blank][img]http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg689/scaled.php?server=689&filename=proline0cookies.png&res=crop[/img][/url]

The privacy policy linked in the OP:

Code: Select all

pronline.ru/page.aspx?pageid=66
is insufficient and mentions nothing about cookies, third-party domains (advertisers / "partners" / etc.).

I decline to rate.
I feel the site should limit cookies to self
an SSL Cert should be acquired for registration / member login / account pages
OR a simple user name / email / password form to create a basic account. - as with most forums for example.

just my opinion...

pronline
Posts: 67
Joined: Fri Oct 28, 2011 6:16 am

RE: pronline.ru

Post by pronline » Mon Feb 06, 2012 7:22 am

<quote user="g7w">
Russian site, should have Russian users evaluate / rate / comment / offer feedback.
Using a translator such as translate.google.com is cumbersome

Press Release online (pronline.ru) - [url=http://bgp.he.net/dns/pronline.ru t=_self]H.E.[/url]
"How it works"
1] create account on pronline.ru
2] select media / blogger category (categories?)
3] Post your press release into a convenient and understandable form, giving it an optimum view with hints, and click "Publish."

You tell what you want! Мы доносим ваши новости до широкого круга потребителей! We deliver your news to a broad range of consumers!

Exactly how is that done (accomplished)?

Viewing translat4d pages, the footer remain constant:
* Why PRonline
* Как это работает How it works
* Для кого For whom
* Консалтинг Consulting
* Тарифы Rates
* Партнеры Partners
* FAQ FAQ

Our service works for you 24 hours a day, 7 days a week!


I find no Terms of Use / Service or a Privacy Policy in the page footer, though a privacy policy appears to have been offered in the OP

The registration page: hXXp://pronline.ru/Registration.aspx
requests user information:
Name (first)
Surname (last)
Company
Phone
Email
Password / confirm PW

This is collecting PII / Personally Identifiable Information when requiring name (especially separated in first/last fields), phone number, and an email address - not to mention user IP (server logs) and the information obtainable from browser [url=http://oreilly.com/openbook/cgi/ch02_02.html t=_self]environment variables[/url]

Requesting this data is fine for a registration, but it should be transferred securely over HTTPS
pronline.ru does not have an SSL Certificate = [url=http://www.sslshopper.com/ssl-checker.html?hostname=pronline.ru t=_self]look[/url]

Domain was created back in August of 2000
There is no evidence of Phishing history - [url=http://support.clean-mx.de/clean-mx/phishing.php?sort=firstseen%20desc&domain=pronline.ru t=_self]CleanMX[/url]
In 2009 there is a plethora of recorded incidents concerning malware, but these are isolated to the year 2009 and all are closed (dead) - [url=http://support.clean-mx.de/clean-mx/viruses.php?sort=firstseen%20desc&domain=pronline.ru t=_self]CleanMX[/url]
Anyone who offered poor ratings concerning malware should delete their ratings and remove thier comment - even the scorecard shows removal of trusted sources with the notice:
Previous blacklisting by a trusted source may still affect this site's reputation. Leave your rating to remedy this.

In my opinion the site is clean concerning threats - no malware example [url=http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=pronline.ru t=_self]SafeBrowsing report[/url]

However, I could not offer ratings for a site which does not [yet?] ensure privacy for their clients (no SSL) and does not visibly link to a Terms of Use and Privacy Policy in all page footers. - legal documents that not only appease the visitor, but protects the site / domain owner(s) as well.

COOKIES:
visiting: hXXp://pronline.ru/
domain drops cookies
but more importantly there is an enormous amount of 3rd-party domains which drop cookies as well.
For a cookie to be added to my cache, I must visit the site, whether I intend to or not.
In this case, there is an extreme amount of HTTP requests being made "on my behalf" by pronline.ru - NOT acceptable.

[url=http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg689/scaled.php?server=689&filename=proline0cookies.png&res=medium t=_blank][img]http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg689/scaled.php?server=689&filename=proline0cookies.png&res=crop[/img][/url]

The privacy policy linked in the OP:

Code: Select all

pronline.ru/page.aspx?pageid=66
is insufficient and mentions nothing about cookies, third-party domains (advertisers / "partners" / etc.).

I decline to rate.
I feel the site should limit cookies to self
an SSL Cert should be acquired for registration / member login / account pages
OR a simple user name / email / password form to create a basic account. - as with most forums for example.

just my opinion...
[/quote]

Hi, g7w!

Thank you for advices. We will soon create SSL Cert - we've already understood, that it is reqiured. And I will ask our programmers to limit cookies.
When everything will be done, I will write you.

Many thanks.

pronline
Posts: 67
Joined: Fri Oct 28, 2011 6:16 am

RE: pronline.ru

Post by pronline » Mon Feb 06, 2012 7:30 am

Дорогие друзья!

g7w посоветовал мне обращаться только к русскоязычным пользователям MyWot, т.к. остальным трудно оценить сайт на русском языке.
Помогите, пожалуйста, поднять рейтинг сайту hxxp://www.pronline.ru.
Суть в том, что я стал владельцем сайта только в июле 2011 года. Сам домен существует с 2001 года и где-то нахватал вирусов. Сейчас это абсолютно чистый ресурс, но из-за того, что раньше за него голосовали негативно, рейтинг по-прежнему низкий. Пользователи, которые плохо голосовали, не заходили в MyWot с 2010 года, и я не могу их попросить убрать рейтинг. Если у вас будут возникать вопросы о сайте, его истории, безопасности и т.п. - пишите, пожалуйста, тут или мне в личку.
Очень нужна ваша помощь!

Заранее огромное спасибо!

pronline
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RE: pronline.ru

Post by pronline » Wed Feb 08, 2012 9:29 am

Дорогие друзья!

Нас не могут оценивать иностранцы, т.к. сайт не имеет англоязычной версии, а переводчик хрома, как вы знаете, не всегда точен.

Помогите, пожалуйста, хорошему сайту и дальше развиваться!

Огромное всем спасибо!

pronline
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RE: pronline.ru

Post by pronline » Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:43 pm

I know, that unsatisfied is not bad site. But our visitors still don't trust us, but we are completely clean resourse. If you found something not good at the site, please, tell me - I will check and change it soon.

@g7w our programmist already has a task to make SSL.

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Posts: 67
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RE: pronline.ru

Post by pronline » Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:28 am

Hi, friends!

Forgot to tell, that I can't contact with MyWot members, who rated us before the site has changed. Many of them have not appeared in MyWot since 2010 (that means they have not left comments and posts) - you can check it.
So, this forum is my last hope.
Please, help us become "good" site.

Guest

Scanned with Virustotal.

Post by Guest » Mon Feb 13, 2012 4:03 pm

Scanned with Virustotal. Your gonna have to get websense threatseeker to not detect your site as malicious. Because that's the only one that detected it as malicious i will rate light green for now, when any of my virustotal checks on it are clean, i will go pure green.

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RE: Scanned with Virustotal.

Post by pronline » Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:08 am

<quote user="link28">
Scanned with Virustotal. Your gonna have to get websense threatseeker to not detect your site as malicious. Because that's the only one that detected it as malicious i will rate light green for now, when any of my virustotal checks on it are clean, i will go pure green.
[/quote]

Hi, link28!

Thank you! The site had been detected in quite all systems as dangerous before I became an owner. I've wrote to everyone, with asking for check the site again, and them changed the rating. I will write to websense threatseeker and will notice you, as soon I will get a result.

Thank you for spended time.

Guest

RE: pronline.ru

Post by Guest » Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:06 pm

<quote user="elibri">
Я положительно оценил ваш сайт и добавил комментарий. Буду благодарен за вашу оценку и комментарий моего (адрес в профиле). Спасибо!
[/quote]

Да, но чтобы оценка была объективной, а не трейдерской - зелёный за зелёный. Ребята, не забывайте, вы в сети доверия, а не на торговой площадке.

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RE: Scanned with Virustotal.

Post by pronline » Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:03 am

<quote user="link28">
Scanned with Virustotal. Your gonna have to get websense threatseeker to not detect your site as malicious. Because that's the only one that detected it as malicious i will rate light green for now, when any of my virustotal checks on it are clean, i will go pure green.
[/quote]

Hi, link28

I wrote to threatseeker to check my site again, but I there is no responce yet. May be you have any contacts, ecxept that published on their site? It is too expensive for me to call them by phone.

Please assist.

Thank you.

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