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Re: infowars.com

Post by Site-rater » Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:50 pm

A440 wrote: ↑
Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:47 pm
Here is another reason to downgrade infowars.com and any other Alex Jones site:

Jones and infowars has been permanently banned from Twitter.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2018/09/06/twitter-has-permanently-banned-alex-jones-infowars/?utm_term=.99b937e01740
I think that domain, along with their partner cloudflare.com, might deserve its own forum topic.

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Re: infowars.com

Post by A440 » Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:00 pm

Site-rater wrote: ↑
Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:50 pm
A440 wrote: ↑
Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:47 pm
Here is another reason to downgrade infowars.com and any other Alex Jones site:

Jones and infowars has been permanently banned from Twitter.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2018/09/06/twitter-has-permanently-banned-alex-jones-infowars/?utm_term=.99b937e01740
I think that domain, along with their partner cloudflare.com, might deserve its own forum topic.
This site is still green and should be red.

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Re: infowars.com

Post by NotBuyingIt » Sun Sep 09, 2018 6:00 pm

A440 wrote: ↑
Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:47 pm
Here is another reason to downgrade infowars.com and any other Alex Jones site:

Jones and infowars has been permanently banned from Twitter.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2018/09/06/twitter-has-permanently-banned-alex-jones-infowars/?utm_term=.99b937e01740
An update:
Apple Permanently Bans 'Infowars' App From the App Store [based upon] App Store guidelines, which prohibit content that is "offensive, insensitive, upsetting, intended to disgust, or in exceptionally poor taste."
Source: https://www.macrumors.com/2018/09/08/apple-bans-infowars-app-from-app-store/

or this:
Alex Jones’ Infowars gets banned from Apple’s App Store [because] the host was determined to have violated the TOS around “defamatory, discriminatory, or mean-spirited content, including references or commentary about religion, race, sexual orientation, gender, national/ethnic origin, or other targeted groups, particularly if the app is likely to humiliate, intimidate, or place a targeted individual or group in harm’s way.”
Source: https://techcrunch.com/2018/09/08/alex-jones-infowars-gets-banned-from-apples-app-store/

Regarding the site's WOT reputation (scorecard: https://www.mywot.com/scorecard/infowars.com)
A440 wrote: ↑
Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:00 pm
This site is still green and should be red.
That change — no matter how well-deserved the readers of this forum believe it to be — apparently isn't happening. The site's Trustworthiness score remains "Good" (currently 79:100 with a mild 2:5 estimated reliability) and its Child Safety score is even a touch higher (currently 80:100 with a similar 2:5 estimated reliability). On the one hand, the ratings may reflect the enormous popularity of the site; (its Alexa Rank is 1902, very high). On the other hand, the WOT system may be fouled up beyond all repair; (comments posted by banned users are reappearing on some scorecards so perhaps their unethical ratings are being applied too). I don't know which is the case.

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Re: Infowars rating

Post by A440 » Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:47 am

"Notbuyingit",

IMHO, WOT is diminished when such an obvious violator of so many standards gets what amounts to a free pass from its service.
This does not reflect well upon WOT worthiness.

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Re: Infowars rating

Post by NotBuyingIt » Mon Oct 08, 2018 3:04 pm

A440 wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:47 am
"Notbuyingit",

IMHO, WOT is diminished when such an obvious violator of so many standards gets what amounts to a free pass from its service.
This does not reflect well upon WOT worthiness.
I appreciate and sympathise with your concern. The highly respected and reliable Southern Poverty Law Center has an (older) article that discusses the site and related issues. See
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/individual/alex-jones
Given the plethora of major internet organisations that have taken the unusual step of banning A. Jones, the guy running the site, I cannot help but wonder if the WOT system is being played for a fool. (I don't know of WOT still employs a statistician.) However, the WOT system has (or use to have) a rule that every time a WOT user visits a website, the user's old rating is refreshed in order to restore its full weight. So while the influence many older, adverse ratings will slowly diminish, the ratings of Jones's regular visitors will remain strong.

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Re: Rightwingnews.com – update

Post by A440 » Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:45 am

This is yet another example of why rightwingnews.com is untrustworthy as a source of news:

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www.nytimes.com/2018/10/11/technology/fake-news-online-disinformation.html
On Thursday, Facebook said it had identified 559 pages and 251 accounts run by Americans, many of which amplified false and misleading content in a coordinated fashion. The company said it would remove the pages and accounts. Among them were Right Wing News, which had more than 3.1 million followers, and left-wing pages that included the Resistance and Reverb Press, which had 240,000 and 816,000 followers.

Facebook said this amounted to the most domestic pages and accounts it had ever removed related to influence campaigns. The company said it had discovered the activity as part of its broader effort to root out election interference. Also, the pages had become more aggressive in using tactics like fake accounts and multiple pages to make themselves appear more popular.

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Re: infowars.com

Post by huckleberrypie » Mon Nov 05, 2018 5:11 am

NotBuyingIt wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 09, 2018 6:00 pm
A440 wrote: ↑
Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:47 pm
Here is another reason to downgrade infowars.com and any other Alex Jones site:

Jones and infowars has been permanently banned from Twitter.

Code: Select all

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2018/09/06/twitter-has-permanently-banned-alex-jones-infowars/?utm_term=.99b937e01740
An update:
Apple Permanently Bans 'Infowars' App From the App Store [based upon] App Store guidelines, which prohibit content that is "offensive, insensitive, upsetting, intended to disgust, or in exceptionally poor taste."
Source: https://www.macrumors.com/2018/09/08/apple-bans-infowars-app-from-app-store/

or this:
Alex Jones’ Infowars gets banned from Apple’s App Store [because] the host was determined to have violated the TOS around “defamatory, discriminatory, or mean-spirited content, including references or commentary about religion, race, sexual orientation, gender, national/ethnic origin, or other targeted groups, particularly if the app is likely to humiliate, intimidate, or place a targeted individual or group in harm’s way.”
Source: https://techcrunch.com/2018/09/08/alex-jones-infowars-gets-banned-from-apples-app-store/

Regarding the site's WOT reputation (scorecard: https://www.mywot.com/scorecard/infowars.com)
A440 wrote: ↑
Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:00 pm
This site is still green and should be red.
That change — no matter how well-deserved the readers of this forum believe it to be — apparently isn't happening. The site's Trustworthiness score remains "Good" (currently 79:100 with a mild 2:5 estimated reliability) and its Child Safety score is even a touch higher (currently 80:100 with a similar 2:5 estimated reliability). On the one hand, the ratings may reflect the enormous popularity of the site; (its Alexa Rank is 1902, very high). On the other hand, the WOT system may be fouled up beyond all repair; (comments posted by banned users are reappearing on some scorecards so perhaps their unethical ratings are being applied too). I don't know which is the case.
Kinda' double standards for Google to permaban Jones from YouTube yet the official Infowars app is still available despite being banned off Apple's app store:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... s.official

But I guess that goes to show how lax Google Play is, where phony apps made by basement-dwellers and ripoff artists thrive.

Anyway, on the topic of fake news and alarmist/conspiracy theory-slinging nonsense, would pro-Duterte sites deserve to be given the red as well?

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Re: infowars.com

Post by A440 » Sun Nov 18, 2018 2:46 am

huckleberrypie wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 05, 2018 5:11 am
Kinda' double standards for Google to permaban Jones from YouTube yet the official Infowars app is still available despite being banned off Apple's app store:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... s.official

But I guess that goes to show how lax Google Play is, where phony apps made by basement-dwellers and ripoff artists thrive.
Exactly.
This is why I don't want any devices running android. Google has been home to quite a few scams (remember the locksmith/florist scam when searching for a local locksmith anywhere?)

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Re: Rumour, Gossip and Fake News Sites

Post by A440 » Wed May 01, 2019 3:32 am

For something more comprehensive regarding disinformation sites, here is a link to a very good resource for checking sites which are known for disinformation or biased reporting:

www.poynter.org/ifcn/unreliable-news-index/

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Re: infowars.com

Post by NotBuyingIt » Fri May 03, 2019 12:40 am

A440 wrote: ↑
Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:47 pm
Here is another reason to downgrade infowars.com and any other Alex Jones site:

Jones and infowars has been permanently banned from Twitter.
Another update:
Facebook and Instagram ban Alex Jones, other extremist figures
See
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-facebook-extremists-usa/facebook-bans-alex-jones-other-extremist-figures-idUSKCN1S82D7

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